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Oct 2 2008 11:01am
Quote (Chlamydia @ Thu, 2 Oct 2008, 18:53)
Olga, you sir, are a true nerd. Lets not start about all your calculations haha, Mat was able to ravage your math-books with 2 lines.


Oh wait, what's this now? Which case are you talking about?

And yeah, the only person to have ever corrected my math is Halciet. No one else ever posted any corrective math of any kind nor said anything else than my math being wrong. Oh yeah, without proof.
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Oct 2 2008 11:13am
Quote (olba @ Thu, 2 Oct 2008, 18:23)
You see, I'm a cynic.


you're not a cynic, you're an idiot.


gee, this guy is more arrogant than I am.
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Oct 2 2008 11:25am
Quote (ProfessorMoriarty @ Thu, 2 Oct 2008, 19:13)
you're not a cynic, you're an idiot.


Oh, so I am an idiot because of the gaussian distribution?

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gee, this guy is more arrogant than I am.


What's this? I'm arrogant because I think there is a whole lot of people who cannot or cannot bother to do simple math?

This post was edited by olba on Oct 2 2008 11:26am
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Oct 2 2008 12:17pm
No, I think people are idiots, too.

You, however, don't cut the crap when someone seems willing to learn.
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Quote (ProfessorMoriarty @ Thu, 2 Oct 2008, 20:17)
You, however, don't cut the crap when someone seems willing to learn.


But that should only make me mean or evil and not an idiot. Idiocy implies stupidity, which I doubt I have expressed.

All I've said is that the math involved is simple. It requires stuff that pretty much any 15-year-old should be able to do. Oh well, should be and should be, not likely due to the god damn gaussian distribution.

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this thread will be locked if this idiot continues...
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Quote (olba @ Thu, 2 Oct 2008, 20:44)
But that should only make me mean or evil and not an idiot. Idiocy implies stupidity, which I doubt I have expressed.

All I've said is that the math involved is simple. It requires stuff that pretty much any 15-year-old should be able to do. Oh well, should be and should be, not likely due to the god damn gaussian distribution.

I would have thought you were too clever to continue in this fashion.

If people in these forums do not meet your intelligence standards, perhaps you should seek some who do instead of wasting your time here.

You may dislike the guide as much as you want. Boring or whatever. In fact, I never expected everybody to appreciate it, as there is nothing revolutionary about the content. Even then, a large
number of players are unaware of it. The least we can do is share the information. Some will understand, others will not. And those who understand are likely to put it into practical use.

Subsequently using the guide to express your general view of the public being lazy or stupid while boasting about some of your own mathematical achievements ... exactly how relevant are they ?
If anything, it amounts to a display of sheer arrogance.

You could at least seem less silly by acknowledging that the guide is not pointless.

This post was edited by Faelwen on Oct 2 2008 09:30pm
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Oct 2 2008 11:00pm
Quote (P00 @ Wed, Oct 1 2008, 10:51pm)
what is the meaning of life


a song by Disturbed =)
a good one too...lil too twisted for the radio though =)


sry off-topic, Nicely written guide man.
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Oct 2 2008 11:01pm
On a sidenote, the only other time I've seen Olba argue with someone (or post at length at all, for that matter) was regarding some guy's fissure build. Granted the build was rather mediocre, but olba presented pretty shoddy reasoning for why it was mediocre. I pointed this out in a PM wanting to engage him in discussion and he never answered, I gave up after two PM's =\

This guide is great IMO, as it serves to inform the reader in a relatively concise manner. Sure, the mathematics involved aren't very complex - but what if one had simply never considered creating a mathematical function to determine the point for Sur = Psap? Personally it had simply never occured to me, and I had just calculated it on a case-by-case basis. Fael's taken a common question, "Which is better, Psap or Sur," and given the average player an easy means of determining which is superior, along with the justification for said means - and along with that justification Fael gives the entry-level gamer the concept of gaming-math. The point of the example which you called a "waste of time" is to show someone who's interested in figuring out how he concluded "Psap>Sur up to 759 life."

Your complaints really don't make sense tbh. Who cares if the math is simplistic or not for you or I? An entry-level cookbook would contain recipies (guides) with many base, simplistic, and superfluous instructions for an advanced cook. Individuals such as myself however would require the thorough instructions, as I have a very limited grasp of culinary arts. I'm sure I could've eventually figured out how to make a cake on my own eventually, but it would've been more time consuming, and trial-error based learning rather than conceptual learning. By reading the cookbook I not only learn a given specific recipie but I also gain insight into how to develop a recipie, what's required material wise, etc (assuming it's a well written book).

Just because the guide seems to detail calculations too much for your tastes doesn't mean it warrants criticism. Please remove your head from your ass.

This post was edited by Dretharis on Oct 2 2008 11:28pm
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Oct 2 2008 11:17pm
Faelwen, good job!

Quote (olba @ Thu, 2 Oct 2008, 14:41)
Kinda boring, I think.

The calculations themselves are something a 3rd grader could do, blablablabla....


So if some1 else is doing some mathematics for the lazy people you call it "boring" and "3rd grad calculations", but your blabbering and calculations of grief dmg (which you repeat every topic some1 is asking for) are not "boring" and "3rd grade stuff"??

What a donkey lol

This post was edited by darkkobra on Oct 2 2008 11:17pm
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