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Feb 29 2008 01:46pm
Once again - Congratulations @Spartikis!
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P.S.: I am looking forward for the day that Blizzard may buff A/D/E to work and to be able to Attack/Move in the same time!
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Feb 29 2008 01:59pm
Spartikus has one of the Best BowaZon's I have ever dueled. I have dueled him on my Old BowaZon and it was quite a challenge and I have dueled him on my Barbarian, Kleav, and had abit of trouble. His build is by far one of the best I have come across. Hope this gets Stickied as a Guide Bro.cool.gif
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Feb 29 2008 02:15pm
Eh? What if the Zon Jabs you while you are rushing her? Your guide has quite a few flaws. Necs and Duirds will have the advantage against you. You shouldn't call them easy. Also what frame GA do you have? Why not post frames for firing?

100 FRW is seriously horrible. How do you desynch at all?

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Feb 29 2008 02:23pm
Quote (alia @ Fri, Feb 29 2008, 03:15pm)
Eh? What if the Zon Jabs you while you are rushing her? Your guide has quite a few flaws. Necs and Duirds will have the advantage against you. You shouldn't call them easy. Also what frame GA do you have? Why not post frames for firing?

100 FRW is seriously horrible. How do you desynch at all?


thanks for the comments

1) They can jab all they want, just shoot them and run, as soon as you see them switch back to bow stand your ground and tear them apart.
2) The necro and druid thing was already commented on and has been covered, skim back a page or two back.
3) 8 frames for guided arrow, was stated in the guide. I listed the bp for the 8 and 7 frames in the gear section. I am only dealing with GMB so why would i bother put up all the different break points for all different levels of Fanat if you don't use it in the build?
4) This is not a desynching type of build so why would i need enough frw to do so? 100% is more than fast enough and doesn't require you to completely rebuild her to have frw. It is also not a Glass Cannon build which you are probably comparing it too. Tried to make that clear at the beginning of the guide. This is a whole new way of building a Bow Amazon with completely different strong and weak points. Would be a waste of time to compare it to something that uses a completely different strategy for its build and dueling technique.

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Feb 29 2008 02:26pm
"4) Why would you use Titans and Storm Shield vs a ele druid? His summons will take all the damage if you don’t multi him first, even if you do and switch then you have to beat his cyclone armor with a lighting based attack. Might as well keep your bow out and beat him with better fast physical dmg guided arrows. Spirit has pathetic block btw and allows for easy hits on druids and all characters that use it.
5) Honestly think you’re going to take a 8k life barb down with those little javs? "

answer to 4 : lightning fury has 2 damage components ( the lightning part that spreads into bolts and kills the minions , and the physical part which represents over 90% of the damage). While using this attack (4k physical damage) you have max block , high or max DR , 30% extra FRW.

answer to 5 : javs in close combat, bow when you succeed to lenghten the distance a bit.

Also good trappers should not run, they should teleport ; a bow ama can switch between primary and secondary weapon slots and run out of mindblast
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Quote (Shadow_lad @ Fri, Feb 29 2008, 03:26pm)
"4) Why would you use Titans and Storm Shield vs a ele druid? His summons will take all the damage if you don’t multi him first, even if you do and switch then you have to beat his cyclone armor with a lighting based attack. Might as well keep your bow out and beat him with better fast physical dmg guided arrows. Spirit has pathetic block btw and allows for easy hits on druids and all characters that use it.
5) Honestly think you’re going to take a 8k life barb down with those little javs?  "

answer to 4 : lightning fury has 2 damage components ( the lightning part that spreads into bolts and kills the minions , and the physical part which represents over 90% of the damage). While using this attack (4k physical damage) you have max block , high or max DR , 30% extra FRW.

answer to 5 : javs in close combat, bow when you succeed to lenghten the distance a bit.

Also good trappers should not run, they should teleport ; a bow ama can switch between primary and secondary weapon slots and run out of mindblast


You may gain extra dr by using ss but give up a fantastic amount of life by choosing not to you cta. And yes the Javas are effective but not nearly as effective as your bow. So why not keep your bow out all the time, spend less time switching back, have a nice BO with an extra skill, still have excellent dr and resistance and kill him that way. Besides you cant block them with the ss anyways.

Besides the damage from titans is usually very low, even up'd perfect eth ones do less damage than guided arrow even if 90% of it is physical dmg. The only way to get better dmg out of it would be to max the skill. In order to do that you would need to take points of out something else like one of the passives which makes you easier to hit which in my opinion defeats the whole purpose of what this build is about.

And most sins will tag lock you so you would have to run several screen lengths away every time this happens. Besides with all of the fhr and passive skills the mind blast is actually not all that effect in my experience. I just stand my ground let those traps do crap dmg and surprise the heck out of them.

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You may gain extra dr by using ss but give up a fantastic amount of life by choosing not to you cta. And yes the Javas are effective but not nearly as effective as your bow. So why not keep your bow out all the time, spend less time switching back, have a nice BO with an extra skill, still have excellent dr and resistance and kill him that way. Besides you cant block them with the ss anyways.

Not if the tag lock you. Besides with all of the fhr and passive skills the mind blast is actually not all that effect in my experience.


It's different styles of dueling; i didn't mention that way was better or worse than yours , i just said how it can work and i explained how lightning fury functions since you seem to not know.

I do not know what you mean by "not if the tag lock you". You switch between your slots and mindblast has no effect(except it damages you a bit). They have to plant traps some time and then you can shoot since it's a pause in mindblast and traps have delay
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Quote (Shadow_lad @ Fri, Feb 29 2008, 03:40pm)
It's different styles of dueling; i didn't mention that way was better or worse than yours , i just said how it can work and i explained how lightning fury functions since you seem to not know.

I do not know what you mean by "not if the tag lock you". You switch between your slots and mindblast has no effect(except it damages you a bit). They have to plant traps some time and then you can shoot since it's a pause in mindblast and traps have delay


I was referring to how you can click on someones name and use that to aim your attacks off screen, like guided arrow or in this case mind blast. The only way to break their "lock" on your name or sometimes referred to as your "tag" is to travel several screens away until you disappear on their mini map. This we were talking about something diffrent dry.gif

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Quote (Spartikis @ Fri, Feb 29 2008, 10:43pm)
I was referring to how you can click on someones name and use that to aim your attacks off screen, like guided arrow or in this case mind blast. The only way to break their "lock" on your name or sometimes referred to as your "tag" you have to travel several screens away until you disappear on their mini map.


how does that effect anything unless he wants to kill you with mindblast alone or something and if that happens just get against a tree/puddle/wall/bush (so you can't get knocked back) and try to shoot or just run out of range

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Feb 29 2008 03:07pm
I don't think it's worth going vita for the simple fact that you lose your java switch, on a bowa I don't want to get hit anyway but if I do, I want to be able to throw furys at them till they go away @@

I'd rather have the damage/switch

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Obviously a gg guide


This post was edited by HellSings on Feb 29 2008 03:08pm
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