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Feb 2 2024 09:22am
I never post here (but I read), the reason is, I only use items I like, therefore they are not necessarily BIS, which is not good advice..

That said, dear diary:

lvl 95 atm

mang song facet
griffon facet
eni
soj soj
mages
arac
silkweave
2 light 10 fcr 25 str 96 mana

2020t 2020anni 10x 20/17 sunder gheed 7x sk 44l

switch

plague kris, eth phoenix lvl 15 redemption

merc HF

infinity mancatcher
gaze 15ias 15@
guardian angel 15ias 15@
(the point here is that he only stay alive, max speed and no low roll dmg helps him, because main problem is he does not get in so many hits)

105fcr
0 fhr
2 str
rest energy
res: light -100 rest -30
2546 mana
817 life

max static, nova, lm, tk, es to 95, 1 ts, 1 frozen armor (thing here is when you tele stomp, phys hitting monsters only get in max 1 hit before they are dead (ofc also help for merc)), rest warmth

I tele stomp everything (this also helps merc to get in hits and leach before everything is dead) (also souls, or most importantly souls) (absolutely no strategy other vice), only use static on baal and clone.

the life after kill from eni will sustain your life, when life goes down just be faster to next pack, when hard hit with poison and there is no next pack close (ofc you can not tele stomp with 1 life), then hit switch, poison / manaburn is gone and life/mana pool full from cure/redemption (3rd baal wawe hydra, switch, fire absorb from phoenix will heal you).

and you do not need perfect inventory, just got my perfect inventory recently, before that I played with 400 life no problem (and 8 open slots in inventory).

yes sometimes you die if you hit the wrong combination pack, or take a max hit from souls, but this is not HC who cares if you die (this is not once each day, I now trye go lvl 99 so we see)

I have full ren in belt, but never use actually, when I first stomp a bad pack I am normally too late =)

cta? o dear, I tried it, I dont understand how ppl dont get insane from casting bo and potting..

no I have never try self wield infinity, but I had a friend in lod many years ago who did, in the time when ppl actually used escutas, so I know it is good.

I mainly solo, so I dont know how good or bad this is in p8..

sometimes merc dies, not always I notice he is gone, so dmg is ok.

and to piss off even more ppl, until recently I did not even have 105fcr, I made a test (long time ago), tp all the way across frigid highlands, difference is like 4 seconds, so then the question is do you actually play that fast to benefit from it, if you compromise killspeed, buying pots or whatever, if using frostburn or even dracula makes survive better, then it is possible this even makes you faster then 105fcr build only reaching the 63fcr bp, for sorc 105fcr is 3,125 casts / second, 63fcr is 2,778 cast / second, why dont ppl also advice using a 6400 dpi mouse? I do understand that good pvp players and bots will benefit from max fcr, in theory everyone will, depends on the price in total playtime (pvm), and do you actually play that fast? I do advice max fcr, hope you get the point..

as said this is probably not good advice, but wtf play what works for you, and you have fun with..
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Feb 2 2024 10:38am
Quote (Bellerophon @ Feb 2 2024 04:22pm)
I never post here (but I read), the reason is, I only use items I like, therefore they are not necessarily BIS, which is not good advice..

That said, dear diary:

lvl 95 atm

mang song facet
griffon facet
eni
soj soj
mages
arac
silkweave
2 light 10 fcr 25 str 96 mana

2020t 2020anni 10x 20/17 sunder gheed 7x sk 44l

switch

plague kris, eth phoenix lvl 15 redemption

merc HF

infinity mancatcher
gaze 15ias 15@
guardian angel 15ias 15@
(the point here is that he only stay alive, max speed and no low roll dmg helps him, because main problem is he does not get in so many hits)

105fcr
0 fhr
2 str
rest energy
res: light -100 rest -30
2546 mana
817 life

max static, nova, lm, tk, es to 95, 1 ts, 1 frozen armor (thing here is when you tele stomp, phys hitting monsters only get in max 1 hit before they are dead (ofc also help for merc)), rest warmth

I tele stomp everything (this also helps merc to get in hits and leach before everything is dead) (also souls, or most importantly souls) (absolutely no strategy other vice), only use static on baal and clone.

the life after kill from eni will sustain your life, when life goes down just be faster to next pack, when hard hit with poison and there is no next pack close (ofc you can not tele stomp with 1 life), then hit switch, poison / manaburn is gone and life/mana pool full from cure/redemption (3rd baal wawe hydra, switch, fire absorb from phoenix will heal you).

and you do not need perfect inventory, just got my perfect inventory recently, before that I played with 400 life no problem (and 8 open slots in inventory).

yes sometimes you die if you hit the wrong combination pack, or take a max hit from souls, but this is not HC who cares if you die (this is not once each day, I now trye go lvl 99 so we see)

I have full ren in belt, but never use actually, when I first stomp a bad pack I am normally too late =)

cta? o dear, I tried it, I dont understand how ppl dont get insane from casting bo and potting..

no I have never try self wield infinity, but I had a friend in lod many years ago who did, in the time when ppl actually used escutas, so I know it is good.

I mainly solo, so I dont know how good or bad this is in p8..

sometimes merc dies, not always I notice he is gone, so dmg is ok.

and to piss off even more ppl, until recently I did not even have 105fcr, I made a test (long time ago), tp all the way across frigid highlands, difference is like 4 seconds, so then the question is do you actually play that fast to benefit from it, if you compromise killspeed, buying pots or whatever, if using frostburn or even dracula makes survive better, then it is possible this even makes you faster then 105fcr build only reaching the 63fcr bp, for sorc 105fcr is 3,125 casts / second, 63fcr is 2,778 cast / second, why dont ppl also advice using a 6400 dpi mouse? I do understand that good pvp players and bots will benefit from max fcr, in theory everyone will, depends on the price in total playtime (pvm), and do you actually play that fast? I do advice max fcr, hope you get the point..

as said this is probably not good advice, but wtf play what works for you, and you have fun with..


Love this all , thanks for your input especially because you usually refrain from giving it ;-)
All the more reasons I have to first try the self yield infinity with enigma as it is the build I feel the most attracted to.
Will most likely one day try the Mang" Song too :-D
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Feb 2 2024 02:19pm
Quote (icnirac @ Feb 2 2024 11:23am)
This is so inacurrate, its definitely not trash. Im in early testings but I sweep baal (p1) without any problem. I would say Mangs definitely are on pair dmg wise with infinity or even better depending on what ur mission is. I feel it does a solo baalrun faster then self weild infinity. I will post more about this when Ive played more and I will also test on 8players. Mana reg is not an issue at p1, never have to use any potions cause of the fast regen. The downside as I see it is ofc that u miss the insight + cure merc and that is a rough trade even if u might do a bit more dmg overall.


your the only one here pushing that setup

no one cares
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Quote (WiseWolf @ Feb 2 2024 09:19pm)
your the only one here pushing that setup

no one cares


Now your being inaccurate once again, seems to be a common theme with you. But since u didn't realize, this whole thread is about that build and someone actually made a youtube video about it so I guess a lot more people then me finding Mangs build interesting. The big question is what you do here? Your'e writing nonsense and being stupid. Please just dont' post anything more here, your contribution is zero, in fact its negative since people have to read your shit.
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Feb 3 2024 06:20am
come on mang
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Feb 3 2024 01:26pm
Quote (icnirac @ Feb 3 2024 12:24pm)


just some feedback since I am now using enigma to be at 250+ mf : big difference in terms of uniques dropped; I am back at the same satisfaction level I have with my frenzy barb (since yesterday I dropped 4-5 uniques rings !) --> so thank you

Now I still die sometimes of course as I don't have the same quality stuff you guys have but I enjoy it much more.

I struggle quite a lot with the "Lords" of chaosrun (shrines activation on the right before Diablo) : their flame throwers are already quite difficult to sustain ; and this time the boss killed me 2 shots without even having mana burn : he was aura enchant, spectral hit and very fast. dead in 2 shots with 2k mana and 700 life

This post was edited by raudic on Feb 3 2024 01:26pm
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Quote (raudic @ Feb 3 2024 08:26pm)
just some feedback since I am now using enigma to be at 250+ mf : big difference in terms of uniques dropped; I am back at the same satisfaction level I have with my frenzy barb (since yesterday I dropped 4-5 uniques rings !) --> so thank you

Now I still die sometimes of course as I don't have the same quality stuff you guys have but I enjoy it much more.

I struggle quite a lot with the "Lords" of chaosrun (shrines activation on the right before Diablo) : their flame throwers are already quite difficult to sustain ; and this time the boss killed me 2 shots without even having mana burn : he was aura enchant, spectral hit and very fast. dead in 2 shots with 2k mana and 700 life


I agree, much more fun to play with this build. The difference is huge in finding stuff. About the lords just position urself a bit away from them so u hit the ones most far away and pump nova, they will then come at u but die before they can do anything. That’s how I do it on 8 players anyway.

About the mana, I’m curious how I can have 600 more than u? I’ll create and post my character here so u can check what’s missing. Also, I think u should run Cta + spirit now when u use enigma since u won’t need to put any extra str to use it. U get a better bo and I think it’s worth over 1+ es the staff gives
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Feb 3 2024 02:38pm
Quote (icnirac @ Feb 3 2024 11:24am)
Now your being inaccurate once again, seems to be a common theme with you. But since u didn't realize, this whole thread is about that build and someone actually made a youtube video about it so I guess a lot more people then me finding Mangs build interesting. The big question is what you do here? Your'e writing nonsense and being stupid. Please just dont' post anything more here, your contribution is zero, in fact its negative since people have to read your shit.


you know when the op has failed when they attempt insults

besides the build speaks for itself: its trash and no one uses it because simple infinity beats it

are you the uploader of the video? i think you are lol get good
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Feb 3 2024 02:52pm
Quote (WiseWolf @ Feb 3 2024 09:38pm)
you know when the op has failed when they attempt insults

besides the build speaks for itself: its trash and no one uses it because simple infinity beats it

are you the uploader of the video? i think you are lol get good


dude just leave now.

he's been very helpful and I do like the build he took the time to explain. I do not like your tone and the uselessness of your posts. You sound like you are 17years old trying to prove a non existing point.

get lost please

Quote (icnirac @ Feb 3 2024 09:14pm)
I agree, much more fun to play with this build. The difference is huge in finding stuff. About the lords just position urself a bit away from them so u hit the ones most far away and pump nova, they will then come at u but die before they can do anything. That’s how I do it on 8 players anyway.

About the mana, I’m curious how I can have 600 more than u? I’ll create and post my character here so u can check what’s missing. Also, I think u should run Cta + spirit now when u use enigma since u won’t need to put any extra str to use it. U get a better bo and I think it’s worth over 1+ es the staff gives



just ingore, thx again for all the tips. I wonder indeed if I should go back to -1 es to gain+1 bo ... but right now I am already "only" at 92%es due to +1 skill amu : -) and I use only 3 skillers to keep 2 free slots next to my horadric cube

This post was edited by raudic on Feb 3 2024 02:54pm
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