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Jun 24 2010 05:21pm
Quote (Tails chao @ Jun 24 2010 06:46pm)
use highlords anyway .-.


ye or u can use 10frames vs most people and it'll still be ok. the choice is yours
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Jun 24 2010 06:26pm
only use highlords when ghostmode is ON

here my claws
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=44547440&f=103
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Jun 24 2010 06:34pm
Quote (reyrol @ 25 Jun 2010 01:26)
only use highlords when ghostmode is ON

here my claws
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=44547440&f=103


kind of stupid to use feral/suw and not use hl
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Jun 24 2010 08:34pm
Quote (reyrol @ Jun 24 2010 02:40pm)
fools feral 40 ias wsmbugged with chaos subwayah gives 10fpa not 9

-.-

15ias on helm is needed

wtf


That was established already.
BTW he has a fools suwayyah and feral chaos.
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Jun 24 2010 08:55pm
Quote (Bryant @ Jun 24 2010 10:34pm)
That was established already.
BTW he has a fools suwayyah and feral chaos.


i think he was refering to my guide
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Jun 24 2010 08:59pm
few questions 4 u gurus :)

1] As far as the AR bonus from a fools claw, does it take affect with ww even if it doesn't show up onscreen [not on main hand] ?

2] is there any compiled list of possible setups [claw types + needed ias] to reach 9fpa, including said WSM bug?

3] is there a way to achieve 9fpa without 2 gts/rts and without WSMing?

thanks 4 ur help in advance!!
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Jun 24 2010 09:01pm
Quote (jerme @ Jun 24 2010 10:59pm)
few questions 4 u gurus :)

1] As far as the AR bonus from a fools claw, does it take affect with ww even if it doesn't show up onscreen [not on main hand] ?

2] is there any compiled list of possible setups [claw types + needed ias] to reach 9fpa, including said WSM bug?

3] is there a way to achieve 9fpa without2 gts/rts and withoutWSMing?

thanks 4 ur help in advance!!


1) yes, but only on the fools' hit (aka if u dont wsm bug it will hit first with chaos without the ar boost, and then with fools after (with the boost)

2) yes. theres 2 things u would ever want to even consider: suwayyah + feral or suwayyah + runics. nothing else. (of course if u replace suwayyah with a faster claw it works too, but then u lose damage and gain nothing back)

3) u cannot attain 9fpa without wsm unless u use 2x runics (which is terribly stupid)
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Jun 24 2010 09:05pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jun 24 2010 11:01pm)
1) yes, but only on the fools' hit (aka if u dont wsm bug it will hit first with chaos without the ar boost, and then with fools after (with the boost)

2) yes. theres 2 things u would ever want to even consider: suwayyah + feral or suwayyah + runics. nothing else. (of course if u replace suwayyah with a faster claw it works too, but then u lose damage and gain nothing back)

3) u cannot attain 9fpa without wsm unless u use 2x runics (which is terribly stupid)


so i used chaos(suwayyah) + Fury(runic or feral) n did WSM bug i wouldnt need ias from anywhere else(jewel'd helm,hl,or w/e)?

This post was edited by Kray99 on Jun 24 2010 09:08pm
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Jun 24 2010 11:01pm)
1) yes, but only on the fools' hit (aka if u dont wsm bug it will hit first with chaos without the ar boost, and then with fools after (with the boost)

2) yes. theres 2 things u would ever want to even consider: suwayyah + feral or suwayyah + runics. nothing else. (of course if u replace suwayyah with a faster claw it works too, but then u lose damage and gain nothing back)

3) u cannot attain 9fpa without wsm unless u use 2x runics (which is terribly stupid)


1] if fools is on main both claws will hit with the added fools bonus?

extra: alot of the time there is a huge complication for me as to all these terms,

left hand / right hand / secondary / primary / boot side / glove side

would it be correct to state:

left hand = secondary = boots // right hand = primary = gloves

and when WSM'd

left hand = primary = boots // right hand = secondary = gloves?


or am i completely off? :huh:
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Jun 24 2010 09:11pm
Quote (Kray99 @ Jun 24 2010 11:05pm)
so i used chaos(suwayyah) + Fury(runic) n did WSM bug i wouldnt need ias from anywhere else(jewel'd helm,hl,or w/e)?


yes u'll be fine
Quote (jerme @ Jun 24 2010 11:07pm)
1] if fools is on main both claws will hit with the added fools bonus?

extra: alot of the time there is a huge complication for me as to all these terms,

left hand / right hand / secondary / primary / boot side / glove side

would it be correct to state:

left hand = secondary = boots // right hand = primary = gloves

and when WSM'd

left hand = primary = boots // right hand = secondary = gloves?


or am i completely off?  :huh:


1) if fools is on primary after wsm, u'll get first hit with the boost (aka fools hit) but not the other one. however u hit first with fools so higher chance to hit when u ww through them

2) yea thats correct however, thats just confusing in words.... just do it and see the difffering i speed for yourself
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