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May 11 2010 06:04pm
soo according i need help what to put on my gris shield, yup im makin gris zeal any suggestions?:S
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May 11 2010 06:24pm
Quote (LilNeko @ May 11 2010 08:04pm)
soo according i need help what to put on my gris shield, yup im makin gris zeal any suggestions?:S


i am using Supe rserect jewel ;O
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May 11 2010 06:56pm
Quote (iskandar09 @ May 11 2010 05:24pm)
i am using Supe rserect jewel ;O


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May 11 2010 11:23pm
Hmmmm, shako or C/C to take out pally visionary users, I wonder. All I know is I need high damage to take advantage of their low defense :D
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Quote (Neutralman @ May 11 2010 10:23pm)
Hmmmm, shako or C/C to take out pally visionary users, I wonder. All I know is I need high damage to take advantage of their low defense :D

Hard choice :lol:

Depends what invo your using. 3/xx/20s or ar/life gcs or just ar/life/max scs.
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May 11 2010 11:26pm
Quote (Neutralman @ May 12 2010 01:23am)
Hmmmm, shako or C/C to take out pally visionary users, I wonder.  All I know is I need high damage to take advantage of their low defense :D


shako > pally vis setup

high def vis (w/ god stats) > shako setup

In my experience

Or shako vs shako which comes down to how you statted and/or luck
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Quote (dark-soul @ May 12 2010 12:26am)
shako > pally vis setup

high def vis (w/ god stats) > shako setup

In my experience

Or shako vs shako which comes down to how you statted and/or luck



That looks correct. Just needed something to counter all the imported pally visionaries I'll have to fight this season. Saw 3 sold within the past two day on that one website chain lol. Shako should provide the much needed damage/life boost I need :D
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May 11 2010 11:31pm
Quote (Neutralman @ May 11 2010 10:30pm)
That looks correct. Just needed something to counter all the imported pally visionaries I'll have to fight this season. Saw 3 sold within the past two day on that one website chain lol. Shako should provide the much needed damage/life boost I need :D


Oh ladder..Yeah..Use High def vis or shako tbh.
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Quote (LilNeko @ May 12 2010 12:31am)
Oh ladder..Yeah..Use High def vis or shako tbh.



High defense vis is lose-lose versus pally vis. Mathematically, they actually have 1% more chance to hit me (55k def versus 59k def) before calculating block, and on top of that they have more damage and life. But it's good versus shako.
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Quote (Neutralman @ May 12 2010 01:34am)
High defense vis is lose-lose versus pally vis.  Mathematically, they actually have 1% more chance to hit me (55k def versus 59k def) before calculating block, and on top of that they have more damage and life.  But it's good versus shako.


Using the zeal model I gave you? And yes pally vis > high def vis in a duel dunno about ds% vis though. But shako > pally vis in a duel too.
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