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Jun 7 2022 09:30am
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Jun 7 2022 08:18am)
It has been better and is just “more better” in 2.4.

You have demonstrated over 29 pages that all you hve done is tell 6900 people wrong info.


Thanks bro. Good talk :rofl:
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Quote (KimSulki84 @ Jun 7 2022 10:30am)
Thanks bro. Good talk :rofl:



It hasn’t.

Imagine making a guide but not knowing what you are talking about.

Smh.
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It hasn’t.

Imagine making a guide but not knowing what you are talking about.

Smh.


Imagine popping in and say shit like that. Very cool bro. Say more. Guess will just have to ignore since you seem like talking shit on jsp is your job :rofl:
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Quote (KimSulki84 @ Jun 7 2022 10:32am)
Imagine popping in and say shit like that. Very cool bro. Say more. Guess will just have to ignore since you seem like talking shit on jsp is your job :rofl:



Goomshill literally gave you the math on this.

The math has been established since 1.10

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the best build for bowazon is set in stone for all eternity and it isnt this
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Goomshill literally gave you the math on this.

The math has been established since 1.10


Wish the math would always translate to the actual gameplay because it wasn't. 🙄

And I'm not arguing what's the better or not. I'm just happy that bowas have some options for different spec.
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Quote (El1te @ Jun 7 2022 08:42am)
the best build for bowazon is set in stone for all eternity and it isnt this


Another weirdo pre2010 account.

Why don't you just share your thought and be a decent dude
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Quote (KimSulki84 @ Jun 7 2022 10:43am)
Wish the math would always translate to the actual gameplay because it wasn't. 🙄

And I'm not arguing what's the better or not. I'm just happy that bowas have some options for different spec.



The math does translate to gameplay.

With a wide variance between min and max damage, more average damage will always translate in game.

What doesn’t translate is when the variance between min and max damage, such as blessed hammer, is small. As increasing your damage on a skill like this might not actually reduce the amount of hammers it takes to kill a monster.




But this is often overlooked by sample size issues, or not taking the average of your runs, and just pulling out 1 run and saying, this setup is better because of this 1 run.


The math is clear and has been clear for 18 years or whatever it is now. Wf+ faith is better for pvm. Adding more ED% modifiers From2.4 obviously favors a bow with more base damage. So now wf+faith is comparatively “More better” than it was before

There was no need for you to make a topic with bad info.
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The math does translate to gameplay.

With a wide variance between min and max damage, more average damage will always translate in game.

What doesn’t translate is when the variance between min and max damage, such as blessed hammer, is small. As increasing your damage on a skill like this might not actually reduce the amount of hammers it takes to kill a monster.




But this is often overlooked by sample size issues, or not taking the average of your runs, and just pulling out 1 run and saying, this setup is better because of this 1 run.


The math is clear and has been clear for 18 years or whatever it is now. Wf+ faith is better for pvm. Adding more ED% modifiers From2.4 obviously favors a bow with more base damage. So now wf+faith is comparatively “More better” than it was before

There was no need for you to make a topic with bad info.


That's a good info, yes. Thank you. I'm sure we all didn't know that math and mechanics.

Its not just a single video and calling it tHiS iS the BeSt. It's the average clear time of many many runs to compare and WF+Faith on comparable gear level was never clearing better than Faith+Reapers until 2.4. To me.

Now we are just having a health convo of min maxing different bowzon spec because bowa is just too fun to play compare to braindead top 3 meta build.

The title of the topic is a bit clickbait but what's not clickbait these days.
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Quote (KimSulki84 @ Jun 7 2022 11:02am)
That's a good info, yes. Thank you. I'm sure we all didn't know that math and mechanics.

Its not just a single video and calling it tHiS iS the BeSt. It's the average clear time of many many runs to compare and WF+Faith on comparable gear level was never clearing better than Faith+Reapers until 2.4. To me.

Now we are just having a health convo of min maxing different bowzon spec because bowa is just too fun to play compare to braindead top 3 meta build.

The title of the topic is a bit clickbait but what's not clickbait these days.



With how many variables are attributed to a single chaos run, you would need at minimum 2500 runs for each build to get a base line. and even 2500 runs is a small sample size.


Which is why simply mathing your damage output is a much better indicator of performance. Because the math doesn’t have the following human errors such as:
Mis clicks
Stop to take a drink
Eyes darting away
Human reaction time
Overcasting

The following Are some of the variables That also affect the above:
When Amp casts
Monster placement
Unique monster affixes such as stoneskin
Monster density
Lag




There is no convo. It’s fact that wf+faith is better than your setup. And has been better for 18 years give or take.

This post was edited by Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins on Jun 7 2022 10:10am
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