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Apr 28 2011 08:51pm
Quote (D_Dub1 @ Apr 28 2011 10:48pm)
Fact: A defensive sin is > Anything, Including a bowa zon

settles this argument


exhibit A:
jer dueling our hdin/zon team
45 min duel on a doube box with a side semi box

me borrowing enigma cuz so l8z

lol
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Apr 28 2011 08:51pm
Quote (D_Dub1 @ Apr 28 2011 08:48pm)
Fact: A defensive sin is > Anything, Including a bowa zon

settles this argument


thing is, an offensive sin > bowazon too
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Apr 28 2011 08:52pm
Quote (D_Dub1 @ Apr 28 2011 10:48pm)
Fact: A defensive sin is > Anything, Including a bowa zon

settles this argument


Quote (D_Dub1 @ Apr 28 2011 06:26pm)
on a normal realm id feel it would be alot different.


Quote (D_Dub1 @ Apr 28 2011 08:06pm)
a 174 fcr non bloco sin will get raped by any good zon


wat
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Apr 28 2011 09:02pm
i vote bowa zon... if a bowa is smart... > hybsin... but one bad move and hybsin will slaughter

its a pretty even match imo, whoever screws up first losses
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Apr 28 2011 10:08pm
Quote (ranorn @ Apr 28 2011 09:52pm)
wat


Yea i overuled myself , point
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Apr 28 2011 10:37pm
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Apr 29 2011 06:30am
Quote (Goomshill @ 28 Apr 2011 23:10)
same reason I won't install any of the rest

but those are the same situations where C/T wake of fire comes in so handy
and like I was saying, wsg casting is extremely risky and gets you eaten alive

either you'll glitch, or if you don't, theres a shadow master raping you while your bow swap is out -> mass damach

yeah the bowazon can get off some hits, but only by dramatically increasing the damage she takes by either tanking or wsging. Thats why the level 45 shadow master is so crux
against a glass zon its not even a duel



174 fcr is the real deal sealer though, I don't think its anywhere near as effective on some 102 sin going clawblock.


you're good at ignoring answering the question and instead saying things I didn't really ask

this is leading nowhere, you say wsg casting makes you glitch really often, I say it doesn't, but you refuse to install a realm where we could actually see how it goes in reality, kinda pointless to go on about arguing it here

Quote (Steffer @ 28 Apr 2011 23:13)
tudey what is projektduel and how do i get it.. info pls!!


google projectduel


This post was edited by tudey on Apr 29 2011 06:31am
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Apr 29 2011 07:30am
This topic's still going on, nice :thumbsup:

Conditions for bowy to win:
- good player who's experienced and knows what he do
- good EQ (5frw scs + awesome rare javelins for example)
- good starting (taking more than 25% of the hybsins life away before going into close combat) <-- but not absolutly neccessary, the bowy can win ofc even if the hybsin is still at full life
- luck at dodging (traps ain't that important since they're getting sorbed by eq - ww's are neccessary to dodge)

Conditions for hybsin to win:
- good player
- very good EQ (especially the stats - life,wb% - and the ww dmg are important)
- good starting (losing a minimum life amount before going into close combat)
- luck at blocking and hitting with ww


So the starting phase is very important.
If the hybsin alrdy has to tank a lot of dmg and her life is reduced to 50%, she'll have a hard time beating the zon.
The bowy will often be able to just switch to jav and take advantage of her 75% block + ~60% dodge chances and just beat the shit of the hybsin with her 5xx throw dmg javs.
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Apr 29 2011 08:08am
174 fcr vs bowy,
trap starting on bowy with mb only = straf'd
trap starting on bowy with 1 wof before go and mb spam = straf'd


more theorycraft fail ? xD
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Apr 29 2011 12:02pm
Quote (Razor @ Apr 29 2011 02:30pm)
This topic's still going on, nice :thumbsup:

Conditions for bowy to win:
- good player who's experienced and knows what he do
- good EQ (5frw scs + awesome rare javelins for example)
- good starting (taking more than 25% of the hybsins life away before going into close combat) <-- but not absolutly neccessary, the bowy can win ofc even if the hybsin is still at full life
- luck at dodging (traps ain't that important since they're getting sorbed by eq - ww's are neccessary to dodge)

Conditions for hybsin to win:
- good player
- very good EQ (especially the stats - life,wb% - and the ww dmg are important)
- good starting (losing a minimum life amount before going into close combat)
- luck at blocking and hitting with ww


So the starting phase is very important.
If the hybsin alrdy has to tank a lot of dmg and her life is reduced to 50%, she'll have a hard time beating the zon.
The bowy will often be able to just switch to jav and take advantage of her 75% block + ~60% dodge chances and just beat the shit of the hybsin with her 5xx throw dmg javs.


you lose to bowas? :huh:
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