now this is your problem, you have zero gameplay experience regarding this, and about everything else regarding barbs _today_ (not 3 years ago)

cripple your ar? I hit like 7k ar vs necs and 10+k if I bother to ench, its plenty lol. I don't care what people have said for many years, its totally irrelevant. Only thing that matters is if it works or if it doesnt. And believe me, it does
the main problem with bear is that there's not enough charges of it

This post was edited by tudey on Sep 20 2010 01:36pm

I "know the programming" and I "did the math", and guess what?
Arreats came out on top of Guillaimes. They had the same approximate damage output, and arreats had a bunch and bunch of other mods.

and unsummon lock is just as important as it ever has been. Its all about catching unsummon locks from the corner of your window to exploit your opponent not knowing they've been locked.
The old "LOL I CHAIN TELE ZERK TELE ZERK TELE" doesn't work nowadays against competent players, and if you're standing motionless trying to pick off locks all the time they'll exploit it against you
Its all about switching up tactics and not overusing anything. And yes, both leap & unsummon have a place in that

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 20 2010 01:38pm

bunch and bunch of mods that don't matter in the matchup you use either of them (vs hammerdins and maybe the rare nec, thats really all you use arreats/guilli against)

This post was edited by tudey on Sep 20 2010 01:37pm

+life and +mana always help
+frw is pretty dandy

but the other things, like resists, defense, stamina, etc- no, they don't help too much. But the point is the same- both helms offer the same damage, while one helm offers many bonuses the other does not.
Theres no reason to take guillaimes instead of arreats besides aesthetics. Unless, of course, you're dueling 20k life fireclaw werebears without shockwave or physical damage.

not to mention the whole bit about arreats giving you a better chance on any given swing to put your opponent into FHR, because damage from CB can never help towards that (its separate)




and it would be strictly vs pure hammerdins. A FCR circlet is 10x better against necros. And even supposed "hammerdins", if they slip in a charge or a smite or an foh for libbys & mages- then CoA is better anyway


Personally, the only two helms I use on my barb are CoA & Kiras. I didn't feel a fcr circlet was even worth the room in the stash, much less a useless arreats

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 20 2010 01:42pm

it is curious

this barb doesnt move at all

For sure he didnt lock me with unsummon.

i hope ur talky about 1v1, cuz in tvt leap is ver important.

concerning oak, i can vouch that it will screw up most of necs adv in this duel if the barb can lock well

also eero i dont know how u dared to mention bear as it would be very bm imo(just like wolves/vives/nec skellys)

Taunt is the new unsummon.

Tauntlock = fifty fucking bajillion style points on each kill




Are you fucking euros so retarded that you'd make oak "gm" yet make grizzly "bm"?
Because in a PvP situation, there doing like 99% the same thing. Grizzly will have like a 1% chance of putting someone in FHR/Knockback, ok. But otherwise, they're both just dumb minion stacks from charged items

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 20 2010 01:44pm

You said a while ago that guilli did do a little bit higher overall damage

I don't get any extra life or mana from using arreats and just 1-2% extra frw


and yea I use circ vs necs most of the time, thats why I said the rare nec



grizzly is not really same as wolves/vives lol
and it dies 1 teeth, not really so bm imo

This post was edited by tudey on Sep 20 2010 01:45pm

is funny

But losing two ravens in favour of fcr rings is fine?