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Jul 23 2009 04:14pm
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seems to confirm wut those 2 were talking about above about dmg being glitched, but does that say antyhing about AR being bugged?
im pretty sure AR is bugged too


Didnt find anything about that yet


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us made throw bab usin this guide, but without double throw points ofc , nice baba , works fine , ty


So what main attaque are you using? You just throw?
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Jul 26 2009 04:04pm
Ok dude i made this baba without the points in double throw.

So there is my baba at the moment:

Lvl 84: 4.5k life
Double throw: 6869AR // 4212 and 3320 dmg.
Frenzy: 5421-4000 Ar // 2128 ans 1477 dmg
Zerk: 6685 Ar // 2218 dmg

I'm playing with the 63 fcr bp and with damage reduce using string. I've got max/ar scs and gcs.

My skills atm:
Warcries Tree:
1 frenzy sinergy cry (dunno english name)
1Howl
1 Shout
20 Battle Orders
1 Battle Command

Combat Masteries:
1 Axe Mastery
20 Throw Mastery
1 Increased Stamina
1 Increased Speed
1 Iron Skin
1 Natural Resistance

Combat Skills:
1 Bash
1 Leap
20 Double Swing
1 Stun
1 Double Throw
1 Concentrate
1 Frenzy
1 Berserk

About my str/dext/life:

I still have a lot to put 50+ points left. I know putting in dext will increase my dmg and ar. 4.5 life is not enought imo though. In a baal run i have 63% chance touching last wave baals minions.
I thought to put in life to reach 5k life and then putting in dext to up my fmg/ar.

My second idea, would be to create a hybride throw//frenzy with the skill point i have left. But i dont know if its gonna be really efficent later on. My idea is to max frenzy and then to put the rest in axe matery.
What do you think?
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Sep 27 2009 03:15pm
1 criticism:

rare weapon > warshrike

if it is elite guide u should include rares because they are sooo much better than rubbish warshrikes, who needs deadly when u can get double dmg to start with? (and any deadly on top will be much more efficient, hl etc)

i mean it is the ultimate throw barb guide

u probly like warshrike cos of its base ias, fair enough basically impossible to hit max bp with thrower so u need all the help u can get BUT, u are using lacerator too and that has lower ias so its slowing u down anyway

u could use something like hyperion javelin, winged axe

2 baba skills, 40ias replenish 400edmg xxxar eth, thats 5/7 so not impossible and u can get away with having no +skills so 4/7

even a crafted non eth flying/winged axe might suit you much better

40ias fools 300-360edmg , thats 3/7 stats , 5/7 if u include the extra 60edmg and life leech fixed mods, ofc 2 skills is bonus

im just saying this cos its the "ultimate" throw barb guide

i would include a crazy ghost glaive rare too for 1 hit kills, they can have up to 700 throw dmg on weapon, so if youre doing 21k with warshrikes....... u can see why u may not need the ias...

if u say all these items impossible to get blah blah dont forget about saving your imbue quest for eth (clean) axes javelins as they will return as an ethereal rare
crafting flying winged axes is cheap enough and for non eth weapons u can use like a bunch of perfect skulls (6x i think?) in cube to reroll a rare

rare visio helm would rule too but unlike the weapons u would need pretty close to perfect to balance your build from taking arreats away, but then u could get more ias in... and ofc ar wouldnt be a problem or skills

its worth mentioning so people dont forget about how a build like a throw baba isnt limited to warshrikes but the chance of finding better is very very small much like everything in d2...

overall tho very good guide well done on making it well thought out

u should include that being good with a thrower requires skill as he has crappy range and that if your bow merc dies so does your ias

still 100000x better than a boring done a million times vanilla hammerdin etc
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Sep 27 2009 03:23pm
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Two glitches I didn't see you mentioning in the guide, which cripple the build a bit (but its still viable, just not as badass as it looks):
1) Double throw is glitched
2) Throwing mastery is glitched

Points into double throw are fucking worthless, because the +% AR bonus is not actually added at all; the points in the skill add nothing. So you should repost your guide without the "14 double throw" recommendation for that alone
So your attack rating is actually MUCH lower than it appears in your character display
The character screen miscalculates your damage by multiplying your total physical damage by your throwing mastery a second time, when in actuality, it doesn't do that for your damage; it is misdisplaying your total damage. So if you had +200% damage from double throw and 9000 damage displayed on your char screen, you're really doing 3000 damage. Divide your physical damage by the +% on throwing mastery to find out your *real* damage.
So both your damage and AR are much lower than they appear


if this is true then this is another MASSIVE reason to use rares instead of warshrikes
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Sep 27 2009 03:26pm
cool
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Sep 27 2009 04:01pm
Im very curious about that build,a Throw barb must own faces hahaha
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Sep 27 2009 05:00pm
How viable is this for ladder reset character?
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Sep 27 2009 05:32pm
I would love to see a video of your baba dueling
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Sep 27 2009 05:33pm
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I would love to see a video of your baba dueling


go make a baba. make a video
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Nov 16 2009 07:48am
I made this build but with 12 fana merc faith, its enought for bp or i need a 15 fana faith?

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