whats the ias tables? is beast and 34+ griefz enough to hit the highest bp? or is highlords needed and a 40/15 arreats.
anyways arreats>coa on barb

Grief+Beast hits the breakpoint.

Outside IAS does NOTHING to Whirlwind.

And no, CoA>Arreat's as a public game helm, due to all the smiters, bowazons and windies out there.

arreats is garbage

it works well with widowmaker against hammerdins tho, if it has 40/15 in it that is

I thought your opinion was the opposite? Somehow I remember you posting somewhere about how Arreats>CoA 95% of the time...

This post was edited by olba on Sep 24 2006 10:39am

no ur garbage olny think decent about coa is dr... u get the same fhr and resis with arreats plus more def ar skills stats etc... ur not bvb or a meele char UR A FUCKING BVC yes helps with windies but they are ez jsut name lock em on tele hit tele away and aviod nados not hard.

This post was edited by BehindPerfectBeauty on Sep 24 2006 11:46am

If you win aginast windies using that tactics then you haven't dueled gg windies
Giff is the best bvc on europe nl realm, so no he is not garbage.
defence dont mean anythig for a bvc only time it does is other barbs, but then agian they all have high enough and/or shield to overcome your def, any other char in the game is either ele or magic dmg and your def means shit. decent dr from CoA means much more. the ar and dmg increase from arreat ,as well as life for that matter , is so marginal it doesnt really justify prefering it over CoA. Only time arreat>CoA is Hammerdin , only if the arreat has 40/15 (the ias being more important here) since it helps gettin better frame with widowmaker.

This post was edited by mainaman on Sep 24 2006 11:59am

Nice going, posting BvB shit in a BvC guide topic? You retarded or something?
Defense means nothing for BvCs
Skills do nothing for BvCs
the AR is not needed unless you suck
the stats are only needed for widowmaker

If you beat Windies with that strategy, you're dueling MF-windies. Heck, they should kill you in 6 hits with no DR.

And the idea behind CoA is that it combines the best stats:
DR
FHR
all res
high defense

Btw, how do you plan to get more def with a perf non-upg arreat than with a perf CoA, since CoA has 399 def, arreat 363? If you use upg arreat, you're a retardie-san.

This post was edited by olba on Sep 24 2006 12:11pm

when? 2 years ago? evolve or lose.

you are a fucking idiot. name _one_ single duel where arreats is #1 helm-of-choice. only one. oh you cant? cause there are none. if you ever change your mf-career and actually duel a windy who has played this game for more than three weeks you will use coa or you will die.