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May 10 2011 10:51am
Quote (KremlinLeader @ May 10 2011 05:48pm)
i wouldnt say that, hld duels are much faster, sure they requires at least as much skills (if not more in few match-ups) as mld duels

we just prefer mld and lld for many reasons :

-collecting godly rares/crafted items
-less rands due to budget chars non-existing (bye bye 75fc hammer 100fg cleaning pubs)
-avoiding boring duel where everyone has enigma and others OP rw's
-hlders who gets bored by the repetitiv way of playing d2 (rush-br-find torch-makehdinpvp-??-profit)

not much bros could understand that so i cant blame them for always making the same shit at each ladder reset


yet you can also understand that ppl find hld fluid because of eni, imo it's a matter of taste, it's not the same gameplay at all.
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May 10 2011 10:53am
it's fluid but boring lol

whats the point of making always the same thing after each reset ? get rws/uniques and your char is done

blah, i rather take HE and do it 15min then lol

Quote (tudey @ 10 May 2011 18:19)
its a bit more understandable in mld becouse sorcs are the only class with tele so others cant really chase them for shit if they regen (not that it really helps anything with 50% es sorcs though)
but in hld you can just chase the sorcs


wrong, @ lld eledruids got telestaff switch and they're quite competitiv (on east necs also play with telestaff switch)
for mld you want circ/amu with telecharges so you don't see many of thoses

if mld barb/eledru could get telecharges @ circ AND amu they would be OP as fuck

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May 10 2011 10:57am
Quote (KremlinLeader @ 10 May 2011 18:48)
i wouldnt say that, hld duels are much faster, sure they requires at least as much skills (if not more in few match-ups) as mld duels

we just prefer mld and lld for many reasons :

-collecting godly rares/crafted items
-less rands due to budget chars non-existing (bye bye 75fc hammer 100fg cleaning pubs)
-avoiding boring duel where everyone has enigma and others OP rw's
-hlders who gets bored by the repetitiv way of playing d2 (rush-br-find torch-makehdinpvp-??-profit)

not much bros could understand that so i cant blame them


1. yea collecting is just awesome in this ancient game isnt it, especially now that lewt can contribute to your collection of, iny many ways WORTHLESS pixels
2. well define "randoms", it takes 2 minutes on the lld/mld forum before it makes me wanna chop myself in pieces and feed myself to a chihuahua while i watch it happen
3. well if you feel teleport is annoying, feel free to gather the other 2% of the community that shares mutual hate to how the game turned out to be around 7 years ago
4. im sure it gives them a kick to see how little it takes to ruin someone way too addicted's day
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Quote (tudey @ 10 May 2011 18:24)
yes but sorcs who stay on bows screen and dont regen get killed fast so what do you want them to do?


actually it's the reverse, sorc who doesn't stomp zon has no real chances to win, she will hardly ever hit a good zon

fasts stomp make the zon can't breathe that much, you probably don't know that a zon can't outtank a mld sorc, she has to run away
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May 10 2011 11:24am
i can sum it up pretty easily: (you always pwn the tankouts by timing the jump nicely)
draculs = easily hunted down as zon aint got any kb, you kill the sorc before he've made you 1life
swordback = dont get hit by bolts/fury/jab

offscreen = when your mana is too low so your about to lose es

you reg all the time and i about the hld/mld discussion thats pretty lame as i heard from mld players its really :mellow: pussy defwhore duels
and from the duels i had with mld duellers they are by far more defensive


as i said before anyone is free to try me in a duel..

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May 10 2011 11:29am
Quote (jesper @ 10 May 2011 20:24)
i can sum it up pretty easily:
draculs = easily hunted down as zon aint got any kb, you kill the sorc before he've made you 1life
swordback = dont get hit by bolts/fury/jab

offscreen = when your mana is too low so your about to lose es

you reg all the time and i about the hld/mld discussion thats pretty lame as i heard from mld players its really :mellow: pussy defwhore duels
and from the duels i had with mld duellers they are by far more defensive


as i said before anyone is free to try me in a duel..


you can still shoot gas and switch to swordback before it hits
you could use dracs with that kb helm :P

but yea well it takes a long time to bleed a sorc anyway on zon, but zons can avoid getting hit by straight line projectiles pretty well
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Quote (tudey @ 10 May 2011 19:29)
you can still shoot gas and switch to swordback before it hits
you could use dracs with that kb helm :P

but yea well it takes a long time to bleed a sorc anyway on zon, but zons can avoid getting hit by straight line projectiles pretty well


a sorc can dodge ga well enough :E
multi is not avoidable if ama can play it right but ga is not much of an issue

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May 10 2011 11:31am
Quote (tudey @ 10 May 2011 19:29)
you can still shoot gas and switch to swordback before it hits
you could use dracs with that kb helm :P

but yea well it takes a long time to bleed a sorc anyway on zon, but zons can avoid getting hit by straight line projectiles pretty well


you could say zon > bva as well if you avoid every hit, nobody play ama that well.
If you train svz abit you'll quickly find the feeling how to attack/escape nicely without losing any/much life at all

But i can say i'd fear /dunno adv at that kb drac setup but whatever its pretty much only vs sorcs :mellow: and i never see anyone using it, or really really rare at least

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May 10 2011 11:42am
both pussy chars , baba for real men
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May 10 2011 11:43am
after all a cool guide

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