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Apr 9 2010 09:45am
Quote (Soccergoal10 @ Apr 8 2010 10:17pm)
kidding? you ever face a strafezon? ask anyone that has dueled dave on one. I heard he is a trappers nightmare with one.
I also am decent vs most trappers but havent faced too many 1v1.


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Apr 9 2010 03:08pm
Quote (tudey @ Apr 9 2010 09:07am)
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I fail to see why telebow would be any better than normal bow


its not, normal bowa would be harder, tele bowa would be easier to catch and stunlock due to low frw,
the sin does practiclaly no dmg to the zon, but if the zon can catch the sin without traps and a shadow,
a few lightning furies will tkae half the sin's life away, and ow kills the sin in this matchup.
The matchup becomes more one sided in favor of the zon as he learns to play corners too
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Apr 9 2010 03:19pm
Quote (SymphonicX @ Apr 9 2010 09:08pm)
its not, normal bowa would be harder, tele bowa would be easier to catch and stunlock due to low frw,
the sin does practiclaly no dmg to the zon, but if the zon can catch the sin without traps and a shadow,
a few lightning furies will tkae half the sin's life away, and ow kills the sin in this matchup.
The matchup becomes more one sided in favor of the zon as he learns to play corners too


why would telebowa have less frw than a normal bowa? if anything it would likely have more cause of enigma.
but ya with nontele bowas its generally harder since the damage output is much much higher on both bow and fury, which means the sin has to be more careful.

imo the matchup is in favor of sin 1v1. in teams bowas are an issue cause of multispam together with other threats such as leap or hammer, 1v1 a sin has way too many tools to abuse bowazons imo.
takes a very exceptional zon to do anything, but then well.. I guess an exceptional zon could say the same thing about most average trappers. also a zon playing corners vs a trapper? very bad idea to limit your escape vs a good trapper..
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Quote (Ziecheik @ Apr 9 2010 09:19pm)
why would telebowa have less frw than a normal bowa? if anything it would likely have more cause of enigma.
but ya with nontele bowas its generally harder since the damage output is much much higher on both bow and fury, which means the sin has to be more careful.

imo the matchup is in favor of sin 1v1. in teams bowas are an issue cause of multispam together with other threats such as leap or hammer, 1v1 a sin has way too many tools to abuse bowazons imo.
takes a very exceptional zon to do anything, but then well.. I guess an exceptional zon could say the same thing about most average trappers. also a zon playing corners vs a trapper? very bad idea to limit your escape vs a good trapper..


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as a sin player I believe that a good zon can put up a very good fight against a pure c/c trapper. Although "if perfectly played" the sin will win, the zon can punish the sin much easier than the sin can punish the zon imo.
now regarding hybrids.... ww is easier to punish a zon with since wsg rapes them.

This post was edited by Soccergoal10 on Apr 9 2010 04:46pm
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Quote (Soccergoal10 @ Apr 9 2010 10:45pm)
iso your pm box not full. pm me when its not full <3
as a sin player I believe that a good zon can put up a very good fight against a pure c/c trapper. Although "if perfectly played" the sin will win, the zon can punish the sin much easier than the sin can punish the zon imo.
now regarding hybrids.... ww is easier to punish a zon with since wsg rapes them.


kk cleared pm box a bit.
awaiting incoming shitstorm of trap ias questions.

a good zon can put up a lengthy fight but still I think a sin has way too many tools to abuse zons 1v1. it does depend on the players though, and most trappers don't know how to abuse zons.

This post was edited by Ziecheik on Apr 9 2010 04:55pm
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kk cleared pm box a bit.
awaiting incoming shitstorm of trap ias questions.

a good zon can put up a lengthy fight but still I think a sin has way too many tools to abuse zons 1v1. it does depend on the players though, and most trappers don't know how to abuse zons.


no, most zons don't know how to duel trappers
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Apr 9 2010 09:28pm
great sin> great zon > good sin > good zon > bad sin > bad zon

a smart trapper will still beat the zon (never said it will be cake, but they will still win the ft5)
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Apr 9 2010 10:59pm
Quote (Ziecheik @ Apr 9 2010 02:55pm)
kk cleared pm box a bit.
awaiting incoming shitstorm of trap ias questions.

a good zon can put up a lengthy fight but still I think a sin has way too many tools to abuse zons 1v1. it does depend on the players though, and most trappers don't know how to abuse zons.


I am using a scissors suwayyah in primary hand and a qhuab in secondary hand. I have a shael in my circlet and no ias in my primary claw, secondary claw has 3 shaels. What level of BOS do I need to hit max frames?
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Quote (xSmithenatorx2 @ Apr 9 2010 08:59pm)
I am using a scissors suwayyah in primary hand and a qhuab in secondary hand.  I have a shael in my circlet and no ias in my primary claw, secondary claw has 3 shaels.  What level of BOS do I need to hit max frames?


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Apr 11 2010 02:38am
I don't get it..

..How the hell are you able to keep a 3.6k-4.2k WW and still have 7.8k Traps?!
Or 3k-3.6k @ 8.9k Traps?

If I am using 9x Shadow-SKs, I can get a 3.6k WW at 6.4k Traps.
If I am using 5x Shadow, 4x Trap-SKs, I can get 7.2k Traps, but at the cost of just having a 2.7k-3k WW :(
What's wrong?
And what's better to use?
Any other ideas?

I can also post ScreenShots, if needed, because I desperately need help! :(
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