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Sep 20 2010 08:47am
Quote (olba @ Sep 20 2010 02:43pm)
Not only was he good, he was one of the four or so people who laid the groundwork for BvCs and made them as popular as they are. Blobs made one of the most widely known guides on BvCs, while mcm, morotsjos and luis made BvCs popular simply by being awesomely good on them. Mcm and luis also changed the way people built BvCs, as they were the driving force behind using Widowmaker and Fortitude/Duress. Little has changed since their times: Fortitude has become somewhat obsolete due to boxing, Widowmaker isn't "scary" anymore, but that's it, nothing else has really changed.

And by the way, Guillaume > Arreats.


right and coa>guillaumes>Fcr/Frw Circ>Arreats
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Sep 20 2010 08:50am
Quote (mizure @ 20 Sep 2010 17:47)
right and coa>guillaumes>Fcr/Frw Circ>Arreats


In terms of overall useability, that is true. Arreat's is a "ok" helmet, it doesn't offer much but it doesn't really suck either, the next step up from there would be a circlet, as those add flexibility. However, guillaume's is useful in more situations than an fcr circlet, since a circlet is really only useful in freeing up gloves or rings which is useful in about 2 matchups. CoA, however, works against a lot of stuff, not to mention that it has all the "ok" qualities of Arreats, so it's an overall great choice.

Personally? I hardly use anything except CoA.
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Sep 20 2010 10:07am
Quote (mizure @ 20 Sep 2010 12:39)
Y so butt hurt?

anyway get lost


truth obviously hurts lololllo

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Sep 20 2010 10:13am
Quote (harg @ 20 Sep 2010 14:44)
yes you dont need dr at all vs smiter and vt.

/e and massive lol about all this therycraft barb vs hdin

a good hdin will win this easily


not necessarily easily^^ most hammers got such a difficult time with The ~Yedut :P

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Sep 20 2010 10:26am
Quote (azn_remixs @ Sep 20 2010 10:36am)
you guys are complete noobs if you say you dont need guli in a bvc.
Gulli is only use for high def characters.
ex, hammerdin, smiter, vt, etc etc

CB is very important.


no ^^
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Sep 20 2010 10:26am
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Not only was he good, he was one of the four or so people who laid the groundwork for BvCs and made them as popular as they are. Blobs made one of the most widely known guides on BvCs, while mcm, morotsjos and luis made BvCs popular simply by being awesomely good on them. Mcm and luis also changed the way people built BvCs, as they were the driving force behind using Widowmaker and Fortitude/Duress. Little has changed since their times: Fortitude has become somewhat obsolete due to boxing, Widowmaker isn't "scary" anymore, but that's it, nothing else has really changed.

And by the way, Guillaume > Arreats. Sadly, due to the way CB and AR work, it's not practical to provide an exact analysis of how it works, as it'd require exact parameters for AR, opponent defense, opponent level, player level and opponent life. And to actually do something useful out of that, you'd have to code a program that does all the math and draws a proper graph out of it with the different parameters varying within realistic ranges. And unfortunately, I don't do programming and in truth no one is interested in the math, just who's right.

The Oracle has spoken, now quiet down.


Thanks for telling me a lot of things I already know.

A few more things have changed though. Stuff like 63 fcr, oak (or both combined) is something I think most people (who are any good on barb) will agree with me is very useful in situations.
Unsummon lock is barely used anymore (except vs. minions). Good barbs do direct tele->zerk instead of zerk->tele->zerk, and a lot of people realized that leap is nowhere near as useful as it was claimed back then...

Just to mention a few things..
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Sep 20 2010 10:32am
Quote (tudey @ Sep 20 2010 04:13pm)
not necessarily easily^^ most hammers got such a difficult time with The ~Yedut :P


yes will not be so easy vs good str bug barb, but the hammer will still win ^^
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Sep 20 2010 12:07pm
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Thanks for telling me a lot of things I already know.

A few more things have changed though. Stuff like 63 fcr, oak (or both combined) is something I think most people (who are any good on barb) will agree with me is very useful in situations.
Unsummon lock is barely used anymore (except vs. minions). Good barbs do direct tele->zerk instead of zerk->tele->zerk, and a lot of people realized that leap is nowhere near as useful as it was claimed back then...

Just to mention a few things..


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Sep 20 2010 12:29pm
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Sep 20 2010 12:31pm
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