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Jul 17 2008 03:22pm
Quote (Darkest @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 04:05pm)
Are you an idiot? Stick to public dueling. Most decent east players play D2PK and/or use DPK. Guess what.. they have a cap on poison.

You're right.. this zon doesn't rely on syncing.. which is another of it's faults. Teleport is nowhere near as effective as a good desynch/wsg zon. You cannot easily telestomp a wsg zon, LOL, shut the fuck up. I could run around all day with wsg and desynch.. you would never land a tele on top of me. "Only this zon and a vita zon build can stand a chance in any kind of duels, private, pub, gm or bm.".. LOL. This zon has about 450 more unbo'd life than my old hybrid zon and very similar damage.. except mine didn't rely on poison and actually had double the fr/w and multishot.. It "stands a chance" in public duel games and nothing more. Nobody would ever want this shit in a private amapk or tpk.

Yea.. I'm "too much of a noob to handle poison".. have you not read my posts? I'd take a shit on this zon, poison or not. I clearly stated that this zon would be considered BM by 99% of any decent duelers and is far from "the future of zons".

How can you compare a characters SKILL like Venom and Poison Nova to an amazon that stacks poison to get some kills in public duel games? Are you really that idiotic?


U need to learn ur place kid.
1.) i can tele stomp zons who wsg, ive done it plenty in the past, and so can many skilled duelers. U wanna know why we can? We have skills, u running all over the map and spamming arrows in my direction doesnt take much skill. Me name locking u, getting u in fhr with ur non-tanking zon, yes thats easy.
2.) u really think ur puss glass zon can even handle a zon like this, or even mine? ROFL, get out of here kid. Glass zons were only good in 08, 09 and the begining of .10 b4 ppl made mass nigma build chars. Ur char is outdated. U have no chance against ppl who evolved, such as us.
3.) Poison hasnt been bm in pub duels or priv non melee duels since 08. People who continue to say so are too inexperienced to handle it and they cry about it and cry bm so they dont have to face the char.
4.) Dont you even put urself in my or sorrow's league. ROFL kid u are no where near us. I have dueled in almost all east clans, and i know alot of the best players on east, not the ones who have the most expensive gear, but the ones who own east in duels cuz of their skills. Ive seen sorrow duel a ww sin whos #1 or 2 on east and he killed him ALOT.
If u know anything, ANYTHING at all about zons like u claim, then u should know a halfway decent ww sin should kill a bowzon, let alone the best on east.
5.) Ur a faggot with no logic behind ur arguments.
6.) Get a char on east to duel his zon, or just shut up. If u havent experienced a duel with this zon, then u have no further right to say any shit about it. U simply cant because u havent even seen it in action. 99% of ur arguments have had u crying bm the whole time, so im assuming even if u did have a char on east to duel this zon, u couldnt handle it because u obviously cant handle poison, " sad.gif its bm, its tooo strong for me, oh my what am i to do?"
Go cry back to europe or west if u cant handle this char.
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Quote (Mattd90 @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 09:22pm)
U need to learn ur place kid.
1.) i can tele stomp zons who wsg, ive done it plenty in the past, and so can many skilled duelers. U wanna know why we can? We have skills, u running all over the map and spamming arrows in my direction doesnt take much skill. Me name locking u, getting u in fhr with ur non-tanking zon, yes thats easy.
2.) u really think ur puss glass zon can even handle a zon like this, or even mine? ROFL, get out of here kid. Glass zons were only good in 08, 09 and the begining of .10 b4 ppl made mass nigma build chars. Ur char is outdated. U have no chance against ppl who evolved, such as us.
3.) Poison hasnt been bm in pub duels or priv non melee duels since 08. People who continue to say so are too inexperienced to handle it and they cry about it and cry bm so they dont have to face the char.
4.) Dont you even put urself in my or sorrow's league. ROFL kid u are no where near us. I have dueled in almost all east clans, and i know alot of the best players on east, not the ones who have the most expensive gear, but the ones who own east in duels cuz of their skills. Ive seen sorrow duel a ww sin whos #1 or 2 on east and he killed him ALOT.
If u know anything, ANYTHING at all about zons like u claim, then u should know a halfway decent ww sin should kill a bowzon, let alone the best on east.
5.) Ur a faggot with no logic behind ur arguments.
6.) Get a char on east to duel his zon, or just shut up. If u havent experienced a duel with this zon, then u have no further right to say any shit about it. U simply cant because u havent even seen it in action. 99% of ur arguments have had u crying bm the whole time, so im assuming even if u did have a char on east to duel this zon, u couldnt handle it because u obviously cant handle poison, " sad.gif its bm, its tooo strong for me, oh my what am i to do?"
Go cry back to europe or west if u cant handle this char.


tl;dr

your only dueling experience is in public duel games, all your points are nulled. hit me up @ d2pk for stomp.

This post was edited by Darkest on Jul 17 2008 03:31pm
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Jul 17 2008 03:40pm
Quote (Darkest @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 04:28pm)
tl;dr

your only dueling experience is in public duel games, all your points are nulled. hit me up @ d2pk for stomp.


Rofl u dont know me kid, dont even talk. Ive been playing since expansion and d2 came out. Ive dueled in gm and bm priv games.
Ive also done clan games, gm 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 and i do to this day.
Ur the one who seems to be struggling realizing how good this zon is. So i believe its up to u to come to useast and make a char to "stomp" me.
I barely play as it is, and im not gonna waste my time taking what little chars i havent sold and move to d2pk.
If u wanna be stomped on d2pk, hit up sorrow, i heard he was thinking of coming to d2pk anyways.

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Jul 17 2008 04:57pm
LOL
what a joke
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Jul 17 2008 09:29pm
Quote (shove @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 05:57pm)
LOL
what a joke


Who are you?
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Jul 17 2008 10:19pm
Quote (Blah58 @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 04:07pm)
dear god i hope you arnt taking credit for this type of build..


Read. It's already been stated that TG was the first zon, I, however, am the first to release the build.

and yes, it whoops ass.



Quote (Darkest @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 04:05pm)
Are you an idiot? Stick to public dueling. Most decent east players play D2PK and/or use DPK. Guess what.. they have a cap on poison.

You're right.. this zon doesn't rely on syncing.. which is another of it's faults. Teleport is nowhere near as effective as a good desynch/wsg zon. You cannot easily telestomp a wsg zon, LOL, shut the fuck up. I could run around all day with wsg and desynch.. you would never land a tele on top of me. "Only this zon and a vita zon build can stand a chance in any kind of duels, private, pub, gm or bm.".. LOL. This zon has about 450 more unbo'd life than my old hybrid zon and very similar damage.. except mine didn't rely on poison and actually had double the fr/w and multishot.. It "stands a chance" in public duel games and nothing more. Nobody would ever want this shit in a private amapk or tpk.

Yea.. I'm "too much of a noob to handle poison".. have you not read my posts? I'd take a shit on this zon, poison or not. I clearly stated that this zon would be considered BM by 99% of any decent duelers and is far from "the future of zons".

How can you compare a characters SKILL like Venom and Poison Nova to an amazon that stacks poison to get some kills in public duel games? Are you really that idiotic?


I have multishot, now you're just talking out of your ass more -.- ... and before you make excuses, I don't need to add points because my gear adds them for me..

The argument is the same... fine... my zon is bm.. in that case you can bm duel her and i can bm duel you. Unfortunately for you that entails more than just psn damage. I would hope you would get over the preconception and false notion that psn is bm. That rule is old, just like the glass cannon build. This is the future of zons.

450 less life? You'd have to have added into vita for that, sorry. A pure dex build with proper -good- gear will reach 1.2k

And stop talking about taking a shit on everything. The only thing you'd be doing is making up excuses as to why I killed you and complaining. Just like all of east.



Quote (Darkest @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 02:29pm)
Class you mastered.. ha.

You're an idiot, if you wsg you should never be getting telestomped in the first place, idiot.

This character is built for pub duels, and pub duels only; Exactly where you belong.

This character has shitty fr/w and laughable desynching capabilities. What does enigma in amapk have to do with... ANYTHING. That is completely irrelevant and I could care less. (Not to mention, why are you even talking amapk with your laughable zon build? Any real, old, amapkers would laugh you out of their games if they say you claiming your zon was "the future".)

Why is psn bm? I explained it; It's overpowered and you use it as a band-aid. You can't properly utilize fr/w desynch and wsg to your advantage so you rely on the posion for damage so you can pump vita. You use valk to prevent telestomp.. any zon that is horrible enough to even be worried about being telestomped should delete asap.

3/20/20's a band aid? Shut the fuck up.

The necromancer wasn't literally at all, dumbass; Stick to public dueling and never thing you are good again.




All you're doing is telling me to shut up and getting mad, while I've been completely mellow. Maybe if you tried mellowing out you could actually form some half-assed arguments, because right now you just sound... retarded.

If wsg was anywhere near as godly as you claim, most zons would have caught on by now and would be presenting me a challenge. Unfortunately, as with a paladin's desynch, it's predictable. With run/walk you have limited mobility. Plain and simple. If any character is smart enough to name lock you and overshoot with another teleport and attack, you'd be dead. Wsg has nothing to do with desynch, only getting out of fhr lock. So please, be my guest, use wsg while running and limit your chances of not getting hit to 60% instead of 5%.

You're also contradicting yourself. Is poison damage overpowered or are you going to shit on me? zzz.

valk is indispensable. You don't know this build until you make it, and yes I'd make it on d2pk, however I'd have to have an administrator import 175/20's. That's not easy, thanks.

properly utilize desynch? I have the potential of getting over 120 frw.. are you unaware... that's the 'breakpoint' in fr/w. Having too much frw = a sacrifice in damage or life = a weakness.

Also, I'm better than good, read the sig.




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Who are you?


No one.

This post was edited by sorowfulhatred on Jul 17 2008 10:21pm
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Jul 17 2008 10:32pm
Quote (Mattd90 @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 11:22pm)
U need to learn ur place kid.
1.) i can tele stomp zons who wsg, ive done it plenty in the past, and so can many skilled duelers. U wanna know why we can? We have skills, u running all over the map and spamming arrows in my direction doesnt take much skill. Me name locking u, getting u in fhr with ur non-tanking zon, yes thats easy.
2.) u really think ur puss glass zon can even handle a zon like this, or even mine? ROFL, get out of here kid. Glass zons were only good in 08, 09 and the begining of .10 b4 ppl made mass nigma build chars. Ur char is outdated. U have no chance against ppl who evolved, such as us.
3.) Poison hasnt been bm in pub duels or priv non melee duels since 08. People who continue to say so are too inexperienced to handle it and they cry about it and cry bm so they dont have to face the char.
4.) Dont you even put urself in my or sorrow's league. ROFL kid u are no where near us. I have dueled in almost all east clans, and i know alot of the best players on east, not the ones who have the most expensive gear, but the ones who own east in duels cuz of their skills. Ive seen sorrow duel a ww sin whos #1 or 2 on east and he killed him ALOT.
If u know anything, ANYTHING at all about zons like u claim, then u should know a halfway decent ww sin should kill a bowzon, let alone the best on east.
5.) Ur a faggot with no logic behind ur arguments.
6.) Get a char on east to duel his zon, or just shut up. If u havent experienced a duel with this zon, then u have no further right to say any shit about it. U simply cant because u havent even seen it in action. 99% of ur arguments have had u crying bm the whole time, so im assuming even if u did have a char on east to duel this zon, u couldnt handle it because u obviously cant handle poison, " sad.gif its bm, its tooo strong for me, oh my what am i to do?"
Go cry back to europe or west if u cant handle this char.


What a retard , go back to staring at a wall in a dark cave.
And to the other guy : who cares how "unpredicatable" you teleport on your wizardspike joke fcr frame. You just get chain namelocked until you're out of mana or die; you can't even attack and even if you did you'd run out of arrows until you killed anything.
GTFO with your shit builds and shit inflated attitudes , you aren't impressing anyone

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Jul 17 2008 10:41pm
Quote (Shadow_lad @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 11:32pm)
What a retard , go back  to staring at a wall in a dark cave.
And to the other guy : who cares how "unpredicatable" you teleport on your wizardspike joke fcr frame. You just get chain namelocked until you're out of mana or die; you can't even attack and even if you did you'd run out of arrows until you killed anything.
GTFO with your shit builds and shit inflated attitudes , you aren't impressing anyone


I'm not out to impress idiots, that's the least of my worries.

The point of this build is to give people another option that isn't mainstream and still has the great potential to be a very rewarding character.

You all pretend as if I haven't been in these scenarios, I've dueled with this char for close to a year.. The only chain namelocking character to give me trouble is a tmc smiter. Everything else including the smiter is avoidable in some way, shape or fashion.
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Jul 17 2008 10:44pm
Quote (sorowfulhatred @ Fri, Jul 18 2008, 06:41am)
I'm not out to impress idiots, that's the least of my worries.

The point of this build is to give people another option that isn't mainstream and still has the great potential to be a very rewarding character.

You all pretend as if I haven't been in these scenarios, I've dueled with this char for close to a year.. The only chain namelocking character to give me trouble is a tmc smiter. Everything else including the smiter is avoidable in some way, shape or fashion.


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Jul 17 2008 11:29pm
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yes it's called staying in town


Quote (Shadow_lad @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 11:32pm)
What a retard , go back to staring at a wall in a dark cave.
And to the other guy : who cares how "unpredicatable" you teleport on your wizardspike joke fcr frame. You just get chain namelocked until you're out of mana or die; you can't even attack and even if you did you'd run out of arrows until you killed anything.
GTFO with your shit builds and shit inflated attitudes , you aren't impressing anyone


u guys, talk as if he made this guide saying "i theorize that this zon will be good, here is its stats/skills/gear"

No he doesnt do that, hes already made it, and owned games. U guys keep saying the same shit over and over, like him getting name locked and telestomped.
Hes been in that situation, and ive seen him in that situation against very very good chars, and he gets out of that situation pretty well while managing to kill his opponent.
So pretty much the difference between his word and urs, is that his word is the truth. Hes done all that hes said in his guide, none of u however have dueled his zon, therefore when u make these claims against his zon, u are doing nothing but making guesses as to what WOULD happen, and not what HAS happened.

The same happened to spartikis' guide, i just dont think you noobs are ready to move on from your shitty glass zons. These zons are too advanced for u guys to comprehend.

This post was edited by Mattd90 on Jul 17 2008 11:30pm
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