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Apr 2 2009 08:08am
Quote (kuehlschrank @ Thu, 2 Apr 2009, 16:06)
LOL IS IT HIM? haahhaha was so funny with thepwnbros lool


yes it is him indeed xDD
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Apr 2 2009 08:32am
Very interesting build, I might try this out if I can sell one of my other characters.
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Apr 2 2009 08:37am
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also, pvm and pvp chars are near the same.


Gear is really inflexible because of the breakpoints you have to hit. You can throw in some variations like CoH on chest but then you have to give up gloves/ammy if you wanna hit 65% ias. You have to give up ammy + rings to get enough AR to hit Pallys and Babas properly without a merc in PvP. If you wear CoH you can't complete partial angelic set so your AR will suck. Hat/Shield has to be Dream for obvious reasons.

Only real difference is in PvM you can use a Blessed Aim merc for a big AR boost which frees up your jewelry for something else thats useful.

Not gonna pretend that its an amazingly effective concept for a pvp build because it isn't really - you are never gonna max block with a Dream shield unless you invest hundreds of points in dex. You could use guardian angel but then you have to use ias gloves, highlords and lose damage + res and have crap AR. Its hamstrung from the word go with 10/7 frame attacks which is slow as hell. Gear is so locked that you can't use alternatives that give you huge life and mana without losing something really important.

I still commend the author for trying to make it work though and for writing a guide which doesn't really have anything thats misleading or factually wrong with it.

Its gotta be satisfying to kill someone with it though. I mean against all odds you managed to beat some scrub with a motherfucking zeal sorc. Think of it like a really low tier dueller - not expected to win much but if you do then damn you deserve some respect.

This post was edited by Addiktive on Apr 2 2009 08:38am
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Apr 11 2009 04:35am
Sorry if this alreday came up but i didnt really find it like that, but what about heavy poison monsters or stackers in pvp? Those poison scs on a BvC will eat right through ur es wouldnt they? How do u counter that?

And secondly, i have read mixed opinions on PvP effectiveness, so how good or bad is it?

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May 13 2009 12:01am
Quote (Addiktive @ Thu, Apr 2 2009, 09:37am)
Gear is really inflexible because of the breakpoints you have to hit. You can throw in some variations like CoH on chest but then you have to give up gloves/ammy if you wanna hit 65% ias. You have to give up ammy + rings to get enough AR to hit Pallys and Babas properly without a merc in PvP. If you wear CoH you can't complete partial angelic set so your AR will suck. Hat/Shield has to be Dream for obvious reasons.

Only real difference is in PvM you can use a Blessed Aim merc for a big AR boost which frees up your jewelry for something else thats useful.

Not gonna pretend that its an amazingly effective concept for a pvp build because it isn't really - you are never gonna max block with a Dream shield unless you invest hundreds of points in dex. You could use guardian angel but then you have to use ias gloves, highlords and lose damage + res and have crap AR. Its hamstrung from the word go with 10/7 frame attacks which is slow as hell. Gear is so locked that you can't use alternatives that give you huge life and mana without losing something really important.

I still commend the author for trying to make it work though and for writing a guide which doesn't really have anything thats misleading or factually wrong with it.

Its gotta be satisfying to kill someone with it though. I mean against all odds you managed to beat some scrub with a motherfucking zeal sorc. Think of it like a really low tier dueller - not expected to win much but if you do then damn you deserve some respect.


lol, good analysis. I made this char just the other day for about 100fg and tested out some diff items:

Armors: Trech is incredible for the IAS and for fade, which this build needs so badly. Duress however is VERY viable, especially PVM as it gives CB, OW, and a ton of resistances, problem is you lose the IAS. I also tried Dragon to go for a fake Auradin build, but i found it best suited on my merc, the damage just doesn't stack high enough with it

gloves: DRACS. do it. the life leech is sooo important. and who can say no to 15 more strength?. just get a high fcr spirit or use wizzy on the switch for telleing. this build kills much faster with zeal than with CL spam. I still keep magefists in the stash for prebuff and sometimes for duels

Merc: while a conv holy freeze merc is cool... a faith ice arrow merc is a lot of fun. what zeal build doesn't want fanaticism aura?? and the ranged merc just hangs back and slows things. I have a dream helm and a dragon armor on her. helps to stack even more aura damage

As far as dueling, if they are really good this build won't really stand up. but its AWESOME for pub dueling. I joined an all pally zealer duel game today and took out every single pally just by telleing on top and zealing. its really one of the most fun duel character's i've ever played
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May 13 2009 10:09am
Nice necro post.

Quote (Addiktive @ Thu, Apr 2 2009, 07:37am)
Not gonna pretend that its an amazingly effective concept for a pvp build because it isn't really - you are never gonna max block with a Dream shield unless you invest hundreds of points in dex.

It's not all that bad as you get a ton of AR from having over 300 points into dex. AR is pretty important for melee builds like this as you know.

Quote (Addiktive @ Thu, Apr 2 2009, 07:37am)
Its gotta be satisfying to kill someone with it though. I mean against all odds you managed to beat some scrub with a motherfucking zeal sorc. Think of it like a really low tier dueller - not expected to win much but if you do then damn you deserve some respect.

It is very satisfying to kill someone with a melee sorc. People usually type something like, "wtf" or "lol" when you first slay them.


And it's not a low tier build at all. It is a very formidable anti caster class. Any sorc, necro, windy, zon, without block will die in 1-2 zeals. Though you will lose versus most melee classes, trappers, and CS zons.


with that said

this guide sucks ass, here's my ladder build

http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=30847553&f=168
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May 17 2009 04:03pm
i have a zeal sorc thats almost the exact same build as that one... myne dose 2 k damage and diees extremely fucking quickly ...;. how THE fuck do you make a decent one.
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May 18 2009 12:32pm
bump gozu whiteknightmare 8D
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May 24 2009 04:30am
it sux dude
zeal soso's are useless
with my barb i let them hit me 1 and then i zerk her
2 hits are enough
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Quote (djbass @ Sun, Dec 16 2007, 11:11pm)
not bad


When you say that, I hope yu remember your sig shows your hdin blows every char lol
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