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Apr 3 2010 10:07am
Quote (tudey @ Apr 3 2010 11:57am)
those rules which you think should be used just favour hybrids, the char you use
hybrid v trap 1 wisp allowed, now the trapper does ~as much damage as your hybrid and you have ww on top of that, great rules :thumbsup:

the ghost v trap part is fine thou, just becouse ghost doesnt do any damage with traps. I think tg might be a bit much for that thou, a wisp could be allowed


imo a wisp may seem more fair on paper, however, in actual screenplay we both kno it only takes 1 mistake to get fucked up as a trapper vs ghost (once that trapper has a good lock on you, it will be a bitch to escape - takin a shitload of damage that way). tgod makes the incentive to play offensive much higher as it allows you to tank just that little bit more. then again, with tgod u are forced to use a fcr ammy and not highlords for damage. so basically its a trade off between wisp + highlods vs tgod + fcr ammy to keep the 65fcr bp. its fair imo (ps im mainly a ghost player, the only reason i use hybrids is cuz im sick of stupid vts and barbs in every game and its so much harder to kill them as a ghost)

and meh..... depending on the build, but i generall beat hybrids pretty well with my wisping ghost. perhaps not on d2pk, but on a regular realm sin, it makes a hellava difference in ww damage without both sins using glcaws... trappers do like 12k damage, my hybrid only does 7-8kish

as for the way my rules are setup, it makes it work like this ghost > hybrid > trap > ghost

but with the original rule set, basically a good mix of offense and defense on trappers > ghost AND hybrid

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Apr 3 2010 10:08am
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Apr 3 2010 10:19am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 3 Apr 2010 18:07)
imo a wisp may seem more fair on paper, however, in actual screenplay we both kno it only takes 1 mistake to get fucked up as a trapper vs ghost (once that trapper has a good lock on you, it will be a bitch to escape - takin a shitload of damage that way). tgod makes the incentive to play offensive much higher as it allows you to tank just that little bit more. then again, with tgod u are forced to use a fcr ammy and not highlords for damage. so basically its a trade off between wisp + highlods vs tgod + fcr ammy to keep the 65fcr bp. its fair imo (ps im mainly a ghost player, the only reason i use hybrids is cuz im sick of stupid vts and barbs in every game and its so much harder to kill them as a ghost)

and meh..... depending on the build, but i generall beat hybrids pretty well with my wisping ghost. perhaps not on d2pk, but on a regular realm sin, it makes a hellava difference in ww damage without both sins using glcaws... trappers do like 12k damage, my hybrid only does 7-8kish

as for the way my rules are setup, it makes it work like this ghost > hybrid > trap > ghost

but with the original rule set, basically a good mix of offense and defense on trappers > ghost AND hybrid


yea well its arguable for trap v ghost, I think tgods could work for ghost v trap as ghost has no damaging traps of his own. And wisp vs hybs is pretty fair too I'd say
But I dont think hybrid should be allowed to use a wisp vs trapper, that makes the trap damage almost equal. At least let the trap use Lo in helm then, that might make it a bit better
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Apr 3 2010 10:23am
Quote (tudey @ Apr 3 2010 12:19pm)
yea well its arguable for trap v ghost, I think tgods could work for ghost v trap as ghost has no damaging traps of his own. And wisp vs hybs is pretty fair too I'd say
But I dont think hybrid should be allowed to use a wisp vs trapper, that makes the trap damage almost equal. At least let the trap use Lo in helm then, that might make it a bit better


yea thats fair too, when i said wisp i ment like both parties should be allowed to use that should they choose. not just 1 sided for the hybrid lol. however u gotta keep in mind that using Lo in helm for trapper = 8 less dr from loss of ber too ^_^

the reason using no wisp or Lo or tgod would be unfair in hybrid vs trapper is becuase most trappers are built with 102fcr, 12ktraps, and a good source of life rep. hybrids have 8k traps, 3-4kww and 65 fcr without a good source of life rep (most of the time). this means that if the trapper shall choose the corner and play a little defensively, the hybrid cant get close without getting seriously hurt (imaging u tele in there to ww them and the trapper gets a lucky claw block. now you are stick his his pile of traps + 102fcr mb spam etc.... there goes 1/3 of ur life)
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Apr 3 2010 10:32am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 3 Apr 2010 18:23)
yea thats fair too, when i said wisp i ment like both parties should be allowed to use that should they choose. not just 1 sided for the hybrid lol. however u gotta keep in mind that using Lo in helm for trapper = 8 less dr from loss of ber too ^_^

the reason using no wisp or Lo or tgod would be unfair in hybrid vs trapper is becuase most trappers are built with 102fcr, 12ktraps, and a good source of life rep. hybrids have 8k traps, 3-4kww and 65 fcr without a good source of life rep (most of the time). this means that if the trapper shall choose the corner and play a little defensively, the hybrid cant get close without getting seriously hurt (imaging u tele in there to ww them and the trapper gets a lucky claw block. now you are stick his his pile of traps + 102fcr mb spam etc.... there goes 1/3 of ur life)


oh yea makes a bit more sense if its not just 1 sided^^
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Apr 3 2010 10:49am
Quote (tudey @ Apr 3 2010 12:32pm)
oh yea makes a bit more sense if its not just 1 sided^^


yea pretty much.... so going back to our original point. that means my sin v sin rules are pretty fair now that u think about it. it helps make it much more fair as opposed to the standard ones which give trappers a huge edge over both other sins in sin v sin
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yea pretty much.... so going back to our original point. that means my sin v sin rules are pretty fair now that u think about it. it helps make it much more fair as opposed to the standard ones which give trappers a huge edge over both other sins in sin v sin


most trappers cant really use a wisp thou
but yea its kinda trappers adv without anything, i guess wisp hyb v lo trap might be ok
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Apr 3 2010 11:22am
Quote (tudey @ Apr 3 2010 05:06pm)
most trappers cant really use a wisp thou
but yea its kinda trappers adv without anything, i guess wisp hyb v lo trap might be ok


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couch this man gg trader, never sold unperms to anyone


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