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Apr 17 2022 03:21pm
Quote (gratek @ Apr 17 2022 02:20pm)
^ceejay3

I'll raise again this question.
When I was playing chaos runs for fun I noticed I don't face any issue with tele-out or with start shooting. Even from a big crowd.

Also Toeshenk left this comment in some random thread:
FHR is now useless and not needed


Yeah I took mine off for testing pvm build and it's 690000 percent better than before in terms of getting locked in the pack!!! So nice. I took off all fhr charms for pvp too and it was totally fine now
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Apr 17 2022 03:22pm
Quote (gratek @ Apr 17 2022 02:20pm)
^ceejay3

I'll raise again this question.
When I was playing chaos runs for fun I noticed I don't face any issue with tele-out or with start shooting. Even from a big crowd.

Also Toeshenk left this comment in some random thread:
FHR is now useless and not needed



Fhr is definitely not useless. You’ll get into fhr immune frames regardless, but you’ll get there faster with more fhr and be in the immune frames longer, sometimes allowing you more attacks or casts within the immune windows.
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Apr 17 2022 03:27pm
Quote (gratek @ Apr 17 2022 05:20pm)
^ceejay3

I'll raise again this question.
When I was playing chaos runs for fun I noticed I don't face any issue with tele-out or with start shooting. Even from a big crowd.

Also Toeshenk left this comment in some random thread:
FHR is now useless and not needed



Def don’t need fhr as much, if at all. Essentially you get fhr’d once then immune for a period of time. It helps to have for that initial fhr animation, otherwise not needed. I haven’t changed the fhr on my zon from 32, but if I don’t have it before I wouldn’t be trying to get it now
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Apr 17 2022 03:29pm
Quote (NateFizzle @ Apr 17 2022 05:22pm)
Fhr is definitely not useless. You’ll get into fhr immune frames regardless, but you’ll get there faster with more fhr and be in the immune frames longer, sometimes allowing you more attacks or casts within the immune windows.



Yeah agreed with this. Not a necessity anymore imo, but doesn’t hurt to have some fhr. I’m using 32 still.
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Apr 17 2022 06:50pm
Cool cool good info. I'll switch them out and do more duels.

And why is windy druid so hard to kill! I swear I died like 10 times to this guy today haha he was so good though. Was very cool about it. Told me to use more multishot. But I don't think he was getting hit much.
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Apr 17 2022 06:51pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ Apr 17 2022 05:50pm)
Cool cool good info. I'll switch them out and do more duels.

And why is windy druid so hard to kill! I swear I died like 10 times to this guy today haha he was so good though. Was very cool about it. Told me to use more multishot. But I don't think he was getting hit much.



Multi the summons and strafe that fool when he stomps with no zoo.

Druids have a lot of summons now but you can keep them recasting all day. If they don’t then you can out dps them with avoid and spam.

This post was edited by NateFizzle on Apr 17 2022 06:52pm
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Apr 17 2022 06:53pm
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Multi the summons and strafe that fool when he stomps with no zoo.


Yeah I killed his summons many times but he tele away and came back with the zoo again again and again haha

Do you guys put on cold res and stormshield when dueling windys?
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Apr 17 2022 06:54pm
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Yeah I killed his summons many times but he tele away and came back with the zoo again again and again haha

Do you guys put on cold res and stormshield when dueling windys?



Chase him and slap him while he’s resummoning. You got that tele : )
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Quote (NateFizzle @ Apr 17 2022 05:54pm)
Chase him and slap him while he’s resummoning. You got that tele : )


Okok will do next time!

I usually have not much issues with them but this guy was really good haha
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Apr 17 2022 07:07pm
What’s the strat vs chargers / smiter? Plague then guided? Thanks
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