This is kinna facepalm rule imo, but if sorcs where u play are happy for this then fine..

And anyway with lower es percentage and way lower mana ( this means less mana gained per sec by mana regen formula ), i guess a sorc wouldnt bother doing it. But in hld where you gain so much by going offscreen, most sorcs will do it.

edit: not gonna spam jespers topic anymore, as it will probably get closed asap ( prob close to that happening now actually ), and he said at start he aint gonna repost again.

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on May 10 2011 10:23am

you know jodering gets you no kills vs good opponents

it's also one of the hardest to play in hld if you want to be successful, and there's a huge difference between low and good hdin there too. There's basicly like 1-2 hammers who can beat nearly everyone while nearly rest of the hammers are food for most

Sorc vs Bow is pretty same played @ mld and hld : in both cases bow can't chase sorc



Not that facepalm

Mld community is by far different of hld community : ppl's stay gm, and regening off screen is considered bm, so they don't do it.

And you're wrong, @ mld a sorc would bother doing it, they're highly mana dependant.

This post was edited by maximus_le_roi on May 10 2011 10:30am

yes but sorcs who stay on bows screen and dont regen get killed fast so what do you want them to do?

That's true @ hld
But it seems you talk about something you don't know
hammer/libby is top tier build @ mld, and a player that know how to handle " joderdin " ( and trust me, there's only few ) will get good results. Don't forget that there is no tele @ mld.

Yes the difference is huge @ hld too, but not for the same reason, a good hdin @ hld will mostly tele and foh/smite, so it's not comparable.



Once again, it's okay to regen, but on screen. no corner/house/off screen should be allowed.

If tou talk about defwhoring, the discussion is pretty fucked anyway

This post was edited by maximus_le_roi on May 10 2011 10:29am

oh you ment it like that, yea i was talking about hld


you know you need to not get hit to regen? if you stay on bows screen you're constantly getting hit

It's 2 different worlds but speaking from experience by playing ep (it's pretty much mld but with hld chars, only dru/sorc tele) and regular pk/tvts.. As soon as a ft5/tvt/cw/tour, ull see lots of laming including hdins that medi and seriously this happens in mld I'm pretty sure aswell.. You guys dueled tac/invisible or Saesa? They're allways on the edge to over defensive play. I call it relaxed playstyle though, what's wrong with aiming fbs on an amazon just outside the range where ga locks? ^^

No

GA is easy to avoid.
Multi is harder but you can always counter it by teleing around, can't you?



I'm not sure I get what you meant but :

Yes I played ( and still do it ) vs ep crew and yes they support defensive gameplay. We don't have the same philosophy of how the game should be played tho.
For example they support assa camp vs sorc, when I think it's the role of assa to chase.


This post was edited by maximus_le_roi on May 10 2011 10:38am

lol how are you going to avoid ga if you cant leave their screen? I'd love to see you do that

unless the bow is a retard, no

This post was edited by Inzaned on May 10 2011 10:37am