im not sure i can take that as a compliment
because you're obviously high

This,

and

10/10 from me, very nice.

Maybe a bit more ostentatious / engaging layout would be nice but its the content that matters.

this guide's helped me build a pretty sick frenzy barb (max dmg-build)

still a few things i'm skeptical/unsure of...

1. arreats/guillames. i use arreats because of the +45 res, +4 frenzy, and ll. does the deadly strike and crushing blow w/ guillames really work more effectively than the 4 extra skill pts arreats gives me?

2. i use ravenfrost and the angelic combo. i can't imagine losing the epic ar bonus from the angelic combo. is my only real alternative to get a rare dual-leech/ar ring + metalgrid and charms?

3. dracs/laying of hands. i really dig dracs because of the str, ll, and open wounds bonuses. why switch to laying of hands?

4. leech... if i get rid of dracs and arreats, i lose all of my ll. i suppose i could make the switch and get a dual-leech/ar ring... i guess i'm wondering what a solid amount of ll on a character is. is it overkill to try and get a lot? is 6-8 enough?

thx

1, yes, guilly >
2, if you use grief, then ar is not an issue unless you are fighting a boss, highlords is your damage friend conveniently with lit res, dual leach ring is gg and you can get some ar on them as well
3, loh add considerable amounts of damage to demons and fire resists as well as ias to stack

okay, now the 45 res from arreats is blown out of the water

are you aware that crit doubles your screen damage? and that cb is highly effective against bosses as it does damge based on how much life they have?

4, why arent you getting leach from a belt like nossi or soe?

i have a total of 12 ll on a build who has 2600 life and find it ample
barbs have enough tactical skills to make it so that playstyles is more important than the stats on your gear
i can't tell you how many times i've just rushed into a room full of baddies that would have eaten me alive, but you have skills to overcome this instead of just relying on brute force
and in turn, you will find yourself killing faster because you wont be using those crutches like last wish

leap or ww through gobs of monsters to get to a safer place, howl them away from you, kill one and set up a grim ward
lemme tell you, a couple well placed grim wards will have the room full of monsters running for their lives and you wont need any ll to take them out cuz they're too busy trying to get through the corner

haha, i totally forgot about my soe. looks like i'll be doing a little revamping of my barb thanks to you.

thanks again

if nothing changes for barbs on 1.13, i'll just make this a pvm barb guide, since there isnt that much difference between berserkers and throwers and ww barbs imo, and warcry isn't really the best option imo

I wanna make an old school frenzy barb that will use unique maces. Ill get stormlash in mh but im not sure what ill use in off hand, stone crusher or schaeffer?? stone has more avg dmg and mass cb but schaeffer has nice ctc static and some nice mods like the AR boost. since im gonna be ar dependant, this boots is interesting, but in the other hand stone has -25% target def and -100def per hit. Wuts ur opinion on that??

also wandering If I should try to get eth weapons and zod em or get reg ones. If so wut do I socket in?? shael for ias??

famine could be an option too,,wut u think

Schaeffers > Stone Crusher, except for UT.
An Eth Zodded Stormlash is surely interesting, Schaeffer's unfortunately can't be Eth.

With Frenzy sLvl 20, you need 48 IAS (with some Hits with Frenzy ofc) for Maxspeed. The Lash has 30, HL and Loh have 20 each...
Done.

The Schaeffer's could be socketed in the best case with an 'Ohm'-Rune or a 40 ED/15 Max-Jool.
The Lash, too, or better Eth Zodded

Or... way better: A 'Lo'-Rune.


Famine sucks On a ConvZealot surely great, but not on a Barb.

This post was edited by Mors_Agni on Jul 17 2009 03:31am