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Jul 17 2008 12:06pm
well done. i got a tele bowa non poison. .. poisons are much better.

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Jul 17 2008 12:18pm
Quote (Darkest @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 12:36pm)
pvpeast/pvpwest/temple/gimmeitam/wesuck/palapk/casterpk/dpk/d2pk and every other dueling league/set rules from the begining of d2 until now have ALWAYS had a cap on poison damage allowed per char. You seem to not know shit about any of those, though (stick to pub duels).


Ok and from the start u must have not read, this is meant for pubs. Not for leagues. This is to handle any char that comes and bm's u with like 2v1 or 3v1 or even smiters in a pub.

Also, tell me the logic behind poison being bm? Why is it bm? Just give me some reasons why. Is it because people are too shitty to put some res into their char? Or even lazier to not buy antidote potions?

Quote (Darkest @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 12:36pm)
If you rely your character on poison damage alone you're fucking terrible and need a lot of dueling pratice before you are even somewhat decent at this game.

I haven't even mentioned the fact that this zon uses an enigma.. please, learn to utilize fr/w desynch, wsg (none of you seem to be, in any way decent or know anything about this game, so I don't expect you to know what wsg is), and get good. Please, level 17 valk for extra life.. lmfao. You shouldn't even need stack considering you should be wsging and fr/w desynch desynching down if someone is telestomping you, not teleing around like an idiot with wizpike on switch.

And you proved my point about the maxed golem;


He doesnt rely on poison dmg alone.
His poison will do ALOT of dmg to u, but he also built this char so he can do 1-2k physical dmg with 70%+ cs. Cs will make it 2-4k and thats very good damage + the mass poison. And this zon doesnt rely on frw desynch, its a fuckin tele zon, i guess u have no common sense. He can both run and tele. Not just tele, not just run, he does both. And this zon is also not a fuckin puss glass zon like most are, he can also tank shit like crazy. Put all that together and he is > all chars u can throw at him.


This post was edited by Mattd90 on Jul 17 2008 12:21pm
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Jul 17 2008 12:20pm
Quote (Smart_Player @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 06:00pm)
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cry, make one of these jokezons and i'll personally reinstall d2 just to 20-0 you with barb lol
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Jul 17 2008 12:22pm
Quote (AbysmalDescent @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 01:20pm)
cry, make one of these jokezons and i'll personally reinstall d2 just to 20-0 you with barb lol


Please reinstall d2 and make a barb. Ill stomp u with my vita zon which is 100% easier to hit than this zon lol. And u still wont last, even with doomz or even a shield.
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Jul 17 2008 12:37pm
Quote (AbysmalDescent @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 01:20pm)
cry, make one of these jokezons and i'll personally reinstall d2 just to 20-0 you with barb lol


you've been talking shit this whole time and don't even use diablo 2? Hi, get a life and stop using a forum for a game you don't even play, thanks.


Quote (Darkest @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 12:20pm)
Why is it bm? It's overpowered and a band-aid for shitty duelers like yourself. Please, show me any dueling leagues/competitions/rules/whatever that allow over a certain, small amount, of poison per character.

I could make a bow necro with window maker and a inv full of poison sc's and achieve 30k damage guided arrow and get kills, would that make my necro "the future" (I could max golem on it, too!)? Fuck no.

I could care less that it uses mass poison (I'd shit on you regardless of what you used), you're just an imbecile to think that a zon with maxed valk and poison is in any way "the future of zon's".

And a valk is for stack, if you actually max it for damage or life, you are an idiot. You shouldn't be telestomping on this character, so their is no reason to need a high damage valkyrie; And you can recast it if it dies.. no need for high life..

"And yes, I've seen people max golems, which is effective given they know what they are doing."

You're a fucking idiot, go back to pvming with your maxed golem summoner and get the fuck out of these forums.



No, having a bowa necro will not be the same. You won't get the fr/w or the ias bps not to mention the greatly depleted phys dmg. You can't compare a make-believe char you pull out of your asshole with a zon that actually works. Doesn't work that way, already theory crafting..

You wouldn't shit on me, kid. No more talk. Anyone can talk and hypothesize, I've actually used this zon for some time now. It works. The end.

Since you've never maxed valk on a zon, how's about you stop pretending like you know what it can do. Things look much differently on paper than they do when used.

I love how mad you are, unfortunately I'm very intelligent, so all of your insults towards my intellect hold about as much promise as how poorly you throw around justifications.




Quote (AbysmalDescent @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 12:51pm)
you're a mentally underdeveloped sensitive crybaby so allow me to piss on whatever your inferior brain thinks unless you provide a link to a source, which you cant

europe zons piss on your buttbuddys shitzon statwise much like i piss all over you niggerloving inbred losers and make you keep crying like the 7-year old molested pigcunts you were born to


Your poor attitude is a tall-tale sign that whatever you write isn't worth reading in the first place. Thanks for wasting a part of my life I'll never get back.






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I've been playing zons for 8+ years, kid. Your trying to challenge me to knowledge about a character class I've mastered is like going to the Olympics and telling Paul Haun your a better gymnast. It's flat-out retarded.

Anyways, wsg = weapon switch glitch. no . fucking . shit . If you use wsg while getting telly stomped you're retarded, with your bow out on a glass cannon or average zon, you'd die almost immediately.

Unfortunately for you, you didn't read my guide. My damage consists of 7k psn over 6 seconds, 1-3k phys with 72+% critical, and 25-50% open wounds. I can amp/use cb/tap, there are so many other options and gear mobility that I don't need to fully rely on psn, sorry.

Also, if you had read the guide, I can also desynch run, ONTOP OF everything else that I can do. Clearly you've never been in amapk, since enigma is considered bm on zon league duels. You wanna know why? It adds mobility = death of opponent.

And you have yet to use logic to support the theory of why psn is bm. 3/20/20s would in fact be included in your "buffer-bandaid theory".
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I've been playing zons for 8+ years, kid. Your trying to challenge me to knowledge about a character class I've mastered is like going to the Olympics and telling Paul Haun your a better gymnast. It's flat-out retarded.

Anyways, wsg = weapon switch glitch. no . fucking . shit . If you use wsg while getting telly stomped you're retarded, with your bow out on a glass cannon or average zon, you'd die almost immediately.

Unfortunately for you, you didn't read my guide. My damage consists of 7k psn over 6 seconds, 1-3k phys with 72+% critical, and 25-50% open wounds. I can amp/use cb/tap, there are so many other options and gear mobility that I don't need to fully rely on psn, sorry.

Also, if you had read the guide, I can also desynch run, ONTOP OF everything else that I can do. Clearly you've never been in amapk, since enigma is considered bm on zon league duels. You wanna know why? It adds mobility = death of opponent.

And you have yet to use logic to support the theory of why psn is bm. 3/20/20s would in fact be included in your "buffer-bandaid theory".


Class you mastered.. ha.

You're an idiot, if you wsg you should never be getting telestomped in the first place, idiot.

This character is built for pub duels, and pub duels only; Exactly where you belong.

This character has shitty fr/w and laughable desynching capabilities. What does enigma in amapk have to do with... ANYTHING. That is completely irrelevant and I could care less. (Not to mention, why are you even talking amapk with your laughable zon build? Any real, old, amapkers would laugh you out of their games if they say you claiming your zon was "the future".)

Why is psn bm? I explained it; It's overpowered and you use it as a band-aid. You can't properly utilize fr/w desynch and wsg to your advantage so you rely on the posion for damage so you can pump vita. You use valk to prevent telestomp.. any zon that is horrible enough to even be worried about being telestomped should delete asap.

3/20/20's a band aid? Shut the fuck up.

The necromancer wasn't literally at all, dumbass; Stick to public dueling and never thing you are good again.
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europe zons piss on your buttbuddys shitzon statwise much like i piss all over you niggerloving inbred losers and make you keep crying like the 7-year old molested pigcunts you were born to[/QUOTE]

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Jul 17 2008 02:52pm
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Class you mastered.. ha.

You're an idiot, if you wsg you should never be getting telestomped in the first place, idiot.

This character is built for pub duels, and pub duels only; Exactly where you belong.

This character has shitty fr/w and laughable desynching capabilities. What does enigma in amapk have to do with... ANYTHING. That is completely irrelevant and I could care less. (Not to mention, why are you even talking amapk with your laughable zon build? Any real, old, amapkers would laugh you out of their games if they say you claiming your zon was "the future".)

Why is psn bm? I explained it; It's overpowered and you use it as a band-aid. You can't properly utilize fr/w desynch and wsg to your advantage so you rely on the posion for damage so you can pump vita. You use valk to prevent telestomp.. any zon that is horrible enough to even be worried about being telestomped should delete asap.

3/20/20's a band aid? Shut the fuck up.

The necromancer wasn't literally at all, dumbass; Stick to public dueling and never thing you are good again.


u continue to talk, but its nothing but shit that comes out.

Almost all clans on east except Civic accept poison builds. Civic is a pure melee clan, and that is the only time i can understand the poison as bm build having any meaning.
This zon doesnt need to rely on synching 100% like a frw zon, because it can tele as well. Ur obviously too much of a retard to have realized that by now.
As for zons using wsg, i can still easily telestomp them. Only this zon and a vita zon build can stand a chance in any kind of duels, private, pub, gm or bm.

U still havent put any logic behind the reason as to why poison is bm. If ur too much of a noob to handle poison, then u shouldnt be dueling, period.
If poison charms are bm, why isnt venom on a bowsin or a necros poison nova bm? Those 2 attacks are far more damaging than poison charms on a zon.

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u continue to talk, but its nothing but shit that comes out.

Almost all clans on east except Civic accept poison builds. Civic is a pure melee clan, and that is the only time i can understand the poison as bm build having any meaning.
This zon doesnt need to rely on synching 100% like a frw zon, because it can tele as well. Ur obviously too much of a retard to have realized that by now.
As for zons using wsg, i can still easily telestomp them. Only this zon and a vita zon build can stand a chance in any kind of duels, private, pub, gm or bm.

U still havent put any logic behind the reason as to why poison is bm. If ur too much of a noob to handle poison, then u shouldnt be dueling, period.
If poison charms are bm, why isnt venom on a bowsin or a necros poison nova bm? Those 2 attacks are far more damaging than poison charms on a zon.


Are you an idiot? Stick to public dueling. Most decent east players play D2PK and/or use DPK. Guess what.. they have a cap on poison.

You're right.. this zon doesn't rely on syncing.. which is another of it's faults. Teleport is nowhere near as effective as a good desynch/wsg zon. You cannot easily telestomp a wsg zon, LOL, shut the fuck up. I could run around all day with wsg and desynch.. you would never land a tele on top of me. "Only this zon and a vita zon build can stand a chance in any kind of duels, private, pub, gm or bm.".. LOL. This zon has about 450 more unbo'd life than my old hybrid zon and very similar damage.. except mine didn't rely on poison and actually had double the fr/w and multishot.. It "stands a chance" in public duel games and nothing more. Nobody would ever want this shit in a private amapk or tpk.

Yea.. I'm "too much of a noob to handle poison".. have you not read my posts? I'd take a shit on this zon, poison or not. I clearly stated that this zon would be considered BM by 99% of any decent duelers and is far from "the future of zons".

How can you compare a characters SKILL like Venom and Poison Nova to an amazon that stacks poison to get some kills in public duel games? Are you really that idiotic?
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Jul 17 2008 03:07pm
dear god i hope you arnt taking credit for this type of build..
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