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Apr 20 2010 10:27pm
Quote (Neutralman @ Apr 20 2010 03:22am)
People say shaft setups are best, but for some reason whenever I crunch the numbers, C/C always comes out on top if zealer level 97++ lol.


Crush the numbers with the zeal table I gave you? Or did I not give it to you? Very accurate been tested and proven/adjusted in game by myself.

Oops if I didn't :ph34r:
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Quote (dark-soul @ Apr 20 2010 11:27pm)
Crush the numbers with the zeal table I gave you? Or did I not give it to you? Very accurate been tested and proven/adjusted in game by myself.

Oops if I didn't  :ph34r:


No I haven't recieved this table! Gimme :D
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Quote (Hardlover @ Apr 20 2010 01:50pm)
I accepted your 20k fg offer +5 day refund. You told me it was okay for me to look for better offers and you would refund me anytime. I pmed you yesterday if you can refund me and you said "nope i'm keeping my helm". We had an agreement and you were BM about it. Good job kid. I thought I could trust you but you're just another scammer.


If you don't actually know someone why would you agree to something like that? No one in their right mind would agree to a trade like that it's just asking to get owned lol. Iso s/s though for some more rage/spam to bump my guide some more.
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Quote (dark-soul @ Apr 20 2010 11:27pm)
Crush the numbers with the zeal table I gave you? Or did I not give it to you? Very accurate been tested and proven/adjusted in game by myself.

Oops if I didn't  :ph34r:


Basically what I'm curious about the table, when does a visionary become better than a shako.

Edit: It's hard for me to calculate the importance of (AR)chance to hit when I'm not sure of the exact mechanisms of how block works, such as block rate during zeal, and block recovery speed.

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Quote (Neutralman @ Apr 21 2010 02:28am)
Basically what I'm curious about the table, when does a visionary become better than a shako.

Edit: It's hard for me to calculate the importance of (AR)chance to hit when I'm not sure of the exact mechanisms of how block works, such as block rate during zeal, and block recovery speed.


Depends on stats of the visionary tbh. Shako setup rapes vis setup unless it's a godly vis.
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Quote (dark-soul @ Apr 21 2010 01:38am)
Depends on stats of the visionary tbh. Shako setup rapes vis setup unless it's a godly vis.


Heres a scenario for you, 3 options, which one do you think is the best. All 3 use EDC with 81% deadly strike with 50% DR.

Setup 1: 56k defense, 3700 life, 22500 ar, 1680-6350 damage
Setup 2: 59k defense, 3500 life, 25500 ar, 1600-6100 damage
Setup 3: 61k defense, 3200 life, 21500 ar, 1900-6900 damage

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Quote (Neutralman @ Apr 21 2010 02:55am)
Heres a scenario for you, 3 options, which one do you think is the best.  All 3 use EDC with 81% deadly strike with 50% DR.

Setup 1: 56k defense, 3700 life, 22500 ar, 1680-6350 damage
Setup 2: 59k defense, 3500 life, 25500 ar, 1600-6100 damage
Setup 3: 61k defense, 3200 life, 21500 ar, 1900-6900 damage


Don't have the program on this computer apparently. I'll have it on here tomorrow and let you know :)

Setup 1 = shako
Setup 2 = Vis
Setup 3 = I dunno lol.

I know your base stats too with that info but won't say.

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Quote (dark-soul @ Apr 21 2010 02:22am)
Don't have the program on this computer apparently. I'll have it on here tomorrow and let you know :)

Setup 1 = shako
Setup 2 = Vis
Setup 3 = I dunno lol.

I know your base stats too with that info but won't say.


Very nice! :D Third setup is the one I use because I am bored with setups 1 and 2.
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Quote (Neutralman @ Apr 21 2010 03:29am)
Very nice! :D  Third setup is the one I use because I am bored with setups 1 and 2.


I can't figure out what it is though lol. I was thinking valor but to high def to be that and to low ar/to high dmg for any shaft setup. If you want a good alt setup go shaft/coa/hsarus. Not as good as vis but it does well vs a lot :) . Or theres always eupd duriels and eupd skulders is nice.

This post was edited by dark-soul on Apr 21 2010 01:35am
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Apr 21 2010 01:36am
I love duriels :D, I think it ownz gbane

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