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Aug 18 2010 10:03am
Quote (Andrewchos @ Aug 18 2010 04:01pm)
I wasnt trying to diss your guide, was just trying to explain that the build's you wrote for A3 Merc's are in my opinion bad one's and useless. the best of the three was actually the sanctuary one but even that one is pointless because to waste a merc spot on one aura that doesnt really change anything or significantly help is pretty silly.

My viper build could probably be improved on perhap's but I think its much more viable then any of the build's you wrote of.

with the fastest 86* fcr bp and +7 to all skills's it actually does reasonable damage at a fast pace and can actually kill monsters fairly quickly in 1 player game, I havent tested it with more people.


WAT? act3 mercs cant survive long anyway unless you give them the right equipment and dont tele them into dangerous mobs.
You want them to kill stuff NOW>????

















brother you are dreaming...... :zzz:
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Aug 18 2010 10:03am
I dont think they are completely useless atleast not in a one player game, but I do think they are the weakest of the merc class's.

Im not dreaming, in a one player game with the build I made they kill fairly quickly.

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Aug 18 2010 10:05am
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I dont think they are completely useless atleast not in a one player game, but I do think they are the weakest of the merc class's.

Im not dreaming, in a one player game with the build I made they kill fairly quickly.


Read my edit, p1 games are irrelevant when testing true effectiveness.
Imo, in term of effective it goes like this:

a2>a1>a3>a5

This post was edited by Synonym on Aug 18 2010 10:05am
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Aug 18 2010 10:06am
I didnt test it with more player's and I was using far from perfect gear. Im sure with an 100% perfect setup for them they could do damage in atleast 3-4 person games.

I think its A2>A5>A1>A3

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Aug 18 2010 10:06am
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I dont think they are completely useless atleast not in a one player game, but I do think they are the weakest of the merc class's.

Im not dreaming, in a one player game with the build I made they kill fairly quickly.


maybe quill rats or fallen.


But seriously they are only viable if you have a conviction aura pally and dont let them into dangerous situation.

with the gear you described you would be going to town every 2mins and spending 50 000gold to keep the bastards at your side
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Aug 18 2010 10:07am
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maybe quill rats or fallen.


But seriously they are only viable if you have a conviction aura pally and dont let them into dangerous situation.

with the gear you described you would be going to town every 2mins and spending 50 000gold to keep the bastards at your side


with the gear i describe they do massive damage, and they can kill in chaos sanc hell quickly.

if you have any sort of conviction on they rape.

if you havent tried with my build you cant say im wrong.

Helm : Perf Nightwing /W 5/5 Facet
Armor : Perf Ormus +3 /W 5/5 Facet
Weapon/Shield - Perfect Spirit's.

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Aug 18 2010 10:08am
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with the gear i describe they do massive damage,  and they can kill in chaos sanc hell quickly. 

if you have any sort of conviction on they rape.


They don't do massive damage, at all..
To do any sort of true damage, they'll need massive -%EER, and of course, they're the most ideal on a sorceress, who can tele into safety when controlling the merc from a distance to take out immunes.

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If you havent used this build, you cant say they dont do good damage.

Helm : Perf Nightwing /W 5/5 Facet
Armor : Perf Ormus +3 /W 5/5 Facet
Weapon/Shield - Perfect Spirit's.


I've tried every possible armor/weapon/helm/shield selection there is.
It's you who hasn't tested it in a p8 game to see it's worthless.

This post was edited by Synonym on Aug 18 2010 10:11am
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Aug 18 2010 10:09am
If you havent used this build, you cant say they dont do good damage.

Helm : Perf Nightwing /W 5/5 Facet
Armor : Perf Ormus +3 /W 5/5 Facet
Weapon/Shield - Perfect Spirit's.
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Aug 18 2010 10:10am
Quote (Andrewchos @ Aug 18 2010 04:07pm)
with the gear i describe they do massive damage, and they can kill in chaos sanc hell quickly.

if you have any sort of conviction on they rape.


in synomons guide they are mostly used as support
while yourself being primary damage dealer.

I have the best Auradin on west and had a fully pimped out merc but the bastard just doesnt cut it.

other mercs are much better.
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#260
Aug 18 2010 10:11am
I agree other merc's are better but I think with perfect gear they are better then people think.

and only one of his setup's is used for support the other two are facet build's with no + skills and no fcr.

anyway this convo is moot. back to normal thread talk.

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