nice guide , made me interested in building a shaper myself

got a minor question
in what case do you actually use your grief pb with ss? as of from what i read you use botdba vs smiter, bow amas and tri-whirl barbs.
so the only duel you would go for grief is actually when you are facing another shaper? is it worth it then? as they +stats from botdba would
safe a lot of dex for mb

actually i use grief vs most barbs, other shapers, zealers, gm smiters (without tab, if they use tab, i lame with doom).
when fighting a bvc you really want that grief because it gives way more dmg than botd.
the 30 dex you lose is only worth 60 life (times 8 with bo + oak + wolf) and the extra dmg you gain with grief is worth it.

i don't even use a botd (no room for it). grief pb does well vs smiters, bowas and tri whirl barbs (have to stand in the right place when shift fury'ing).

Nice Job m8.

very very gozu guide...
i m doing a wolf

absolutely spectacular

you my friend, are EuScNl's answer to Kiba

i've dueled you in pubs and your skills and knowledge is amazing.

i have great respect for players like you.

and awesome guide may i add, made me lol in places too

~ Palmer

wroar

Thanks alot for all feedback greatly appriciated:)
Lol, perz i've got to hire you as my secretary:) Deluxe, statting for grief is worth it, perz already explained why:) -Go make a wolf:D
Perz already made one, and i think he is satisfied following my guide:)

exactly!
the biggest question about this build is what you have in your stash though. it's nerv-breaking!

indeed, but once you get to know your playstyle a bit better, its not that hard to rule some of the stuffs out:)

i really liked the guide
funny and descriptive
unified sticky worthy