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Jun 9 2008 06:14pm
Quote (xD|mike- @ Mon, Jun 9 2008, 07:09pm)
the fact that you're worshipping him is stupid.

like i said you don't know anytihng about zons lol.

sparatik, poison is bm? are you stupid.


first off you spelled my name wrong, either go back to grade school or calm down a little bit and stop smashing the keyboard with your fat fingers. Poison may be bad manners but that depends on who you duel with. This is a ZvA mad to duel in public games, this is obviously not a Amazon made for regulated dueling leagues.

Dark-soul is entitled to his opinion and just like he is saying, nothing is copied and pasted from any guide, I cant fathom a good reason why anyone in their right mind would accuse me of such a thing other than to draw attention to themselves in an attempt be a part of all of the action.
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Jun 9 2008 06:19pm
Quote (Spartikis @ Mon, Jun 9 2008, 08:14pm)
first off you spelled my name wrong, either go back to grade school or calm down a little bit and stop smashing the keyboard with your fat fingers. Poison may be bad manners but that depends on who you duel with. This is a ZvA mad to duel in public games, this is obviously not a Amazon made for regulated dueling leagues.

Dark-soul is entitled to his opinion and just like he is saying, nothing is copied and pasted from any guide, I cant fathom a good reason why anyone in their right mind would accuse me of such a thing other than to draw attention to themselves in an attempt be a part of all of the action.


lol i'm not going to even bother arguing with this crap, its stupid.

good luck with "you're" zon lol.
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Jun 9 2008 06:29pm
Quote (Legolas-III @ Mon, Jun 9 2008, 07:11pm)
I'm still curious as to why you still support CoA given my analysis.

CoA is only worth it if you don't have to spend massive points in strength.


For this build i need everything coa has to offer
2 sockets (2x 40/15)
+1 skills (for passive and BO)
30% fhr
15 dr
30% res

Any stats that are lost in vitality due to the high strength are made up by the fact that you can tanke more dmg because of res and dr and have +1 extra to bo

Having high str also allows for spirit with cta meaning another + 1 to BO skill

if you used a hel'd ss ons witch lets say and got rid of the coa, you would say 40 stat points, thats 120 life. It was mentioned to use shako as the helm, first off i would have to switch to ias gloves, after doing that i would need to get 5x fhr sc(to hit the 52 bp, 86 is unnecessary) , giving up 100life, i would also be giving up 5% dr and 30 res all. Would gain about 100 life with shako and would get + 1 extra skill with bow out but wouldnt be able to use a spirit because of the low str.

You do in fact have more overall life with shako, i agree with this! however in doing so, you just gave up 5% dr and 30% res all, both of which are in short supply on an amazon. You could get that resistance back, but it would require you to give up 6x 3 max dmg sc. Plus the damage you lost by useing one les 40/15

In the end you have less damage, a little bit more life, the same resistance, same fhr, same ias (but gave up slow on your gloves), lost 5% DR, up one skill with your bow out, but lost that skill when it comes to BO because you cant use spirit.

I prefer to have the extra DR and better damage, maybe you would like to have the extra life up and a less damage.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Jun 9 2008 06:33pm
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For this build i need everything coa has to offer
2 sockets (2x 40/15)
+1 skills (for passive and BO)
30% fhr
15 dr
30% res

Any stats that are lost in vitality due to the high strength are made up by the fact that you can tanke more dmg because of res and dr and have +1 extra to bo

Having high str also allows for spirit with cta meaning another + 1 to BO skill

if you used a hel'd ss ons witch lets say and got rid of the coa, you would say 40 stat points, thats 120 life. It was mentioned to use shako as the helm, first off i would have to switch to ias gloves, after doing that i would need to get 5x fhr sc(to hit the 52 bp, 86 is unnecessary) , giving up 100life, i would also be giving up 5% dr and 30 res all. Would gain about 100 life with shako and would get + 1 extra skill with bow out but wouldnt be able to use a spirit because of the low str.

In teh end you do in fact have more overall life with shako, i agree with this! however in doing so, you just gave up 5% dr and 30% res all, both of which are in short supply on an amazon. You could get that resistance back, but it would require you to give up 6x 3 max dmg sc. Plus the damage you lost by useing one les 40/15

In the end you have less damage, a little bit more life, the same resistance, same fhr, same ias (but gave up slow on your gloves), lost 5% DR, up one skill with your bow out, but lost that skill when it comes to BO because you cant use spirit.

I prefer to have the extra DR and better damage, maybe you would like to have the extra life up and a less damage.


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Jun 9 2008 06:32pm
Quote (xD|mike- @ Mon, Jun 9 2008, 07:29pm)
FHRISNOTNEEDEDONAZON


nice, you managed to throw any credibility you had right out the window. Guess its pretty obvious the only reason you were here was to get your post count up.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Jun 9 2008 06:32pm
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>_>
tension...
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nice, you managed to throw any credibility you had right out the window. Guess its pretty obvious the only reason you were here was to get your post count up.


nope, just correcting you. wink.gif
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Jun 9 2008 06:35pm
Quote (silent9 @ Mon, Jun 9 2008, 07:32pm)
>_>
tension...


Oh yeah, people are always scared of something that is new and different. Some people want to tear you down and others just want to steal your glory. They usually just end up making a fool of themselves though.

I think i posted this back in Feb of this year, and since then it has had quite a few times where its just turned into a giant argument thread, in the end people still continue to post and PM me thanking me for the guide, asking to duel me or offering advice and ideas of possible changes. I welcome all forms of criticism as long as they are at least halfway intelligent comments.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Jun 9 2008 06:38pm
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Jun 9 2008 06:36pm
fhr is only usefull vs trapsin
eot
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Jun 9 2008 06:41pm
Quote (RoGh @ Mon, Jun 9 2008, 07:36pm)
fhr is only usefull vs trapsin
eot


I find that it is useful vs any character you plan to take alot of hits from, trappers, fb sorc, smiters, barbs, druid etc. Ive played with almost no fhr and with the 86 bp. Found that 52 was most comfortable spot, gives you a good chance to recover quickly but doesnt require you to sacrifice alot to get the bp.
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