its different for bow / java
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=52434886&f=87&o=0

with your bow out its 68% for 13/7
with your java out its 72% for 13/9 (68% for 13/10)

now yeah you could go up to 13/10, but on a damage zon who is using teleport to tele/walk escape from a paladin charging her down, or get out of a bone prison before the spirits hit, or get out of there
well, the action frame is the only bp that actually matters most of the time. In fact, any time you only teleport once (then walk or attack), the backswing is irrelevant since you're animation canceling if you do it fast

but it doesn't matter all that much since it just means you could maybe put on a ravenfrost and upgrade your bow to shadow for a bit more damage with 3x ias jewels and no cham
but you'd be losing -1 fcr action frame, -1 all skills, -20% enemy light resist, -15% light skill damage
its a possible setup for a bit higher damage 7 fpa bow, but at the cost of your cs damage, fury damage, plague damage, survivability, etc
not to say it wouldn't work, but I don't think its worth the tradeoff


now another real consideration would be a +2 zon +20% fcr 2 socket circlet. It could give you way more life/resists from the other affixes if it was godly
that would let you use a mat bow setup (less damage but hit 7 FPA with just 2x jewels), keep your cbf, slightly make up your damage by going +1 skills, and drop from 13/9 to 13/10 fcr

I wouldn't especially recommend it considering it costs 1000x as much, and is arguably worse, but it would be a very viable setup. More plague damage, way less cs/fury, bit faster bow with less damage, bit slower teleport, possibly more life/resists, even frw

This post was edited by Goomshill on Apr 22 2011 02:18pm

Okay,what u think abot Java kb gloves.Ofc u sacrifice dmg from to gloves,but boosts ur ias,cs and fury and again u have 2skills to compensate plague jav.Also I think that kb will help quite often both with ur fury and GA.lmk what u think,Ty.Also I want to point out that kb can be achieve with 4/40 kb javs but then ull have kb only on jav switch.ty

This post was edited by kimi92 on Apr 22 2011 02:29pm

thats why I said I needed to repost this topic
the information on page 1 is not correct, you'd have to read about 20 pages of discussion / trolling

java / kb / ias gloves are the correct choice, with a 2/20% fcr amulet and shadow bow faith.



that is, unless you have a circlet like this:


Then you can switch to mat bow faith and lose some light damage and bow damage and fcr, sure.

didnt know about the fcr being different while bow/java is out, learn something new everyday

i guess griffons would probably be best until those sorb starts to creep in ( which is too damn often )
i would personally keep a 120/45/20 in stash for sure, the extra dmg would help greatly against say... a hammerdin
i know plague will drain his life, but too often they'll just use cleansing which is pretty damn anoying >.<, there goes your light dmg and your plague is pretty much screwed too
all you're left with is your bow, so i would deffo recommand getting this baby up in certain match ups.

i'd probably do the same, if I had a infinite stash
mines 100% filled once you count the room to remove my bow for switch

I mean if you were only dueling 1v1 gm 1 char at a time, then yeah a 120/45/20 would make good sense against a hammerdin, since thats one matchup where your bow does a lot of the work
but against most chars, like bvc, windy, sorc, zon, necro, smiters, etc- you'd need your griffs.

Ty!Knew that kb gloves will come in handy for sure!W8ing for the repost,hope to be perf.

oh and remember that even with 75% resists and 80% cleansing, a pally is going to lose ~1200-1400 hp from the 8+ seconds your plague javelin lasts on him, depending on if you have prebo or 9x charms
its not enough to kill them in a single hit if they are cleansing it up, but they can't afford to get hit 3 times before they're dead

plague javelin does ludicrous amounts of damage


shame theres so many retards on east who think "antidotes are gm". Course, I keep some juvs in that sorb stash of mine and had fun using slow missiles + juvs on a potting druid the other day

heres the quick list:

Eth Titans *OR* Godly Rare Javas
Faith Shadow Bow
Enigma
15/15 Griffs
Um'd Stormshield *OR* 15/15 with Godly Rare Javas for BP, *OR* Ber'd Stormshield (1 of each stash doesn't hurt for gm 1v1)
+2 zon / 20% fcr / resist amulet (+resists, etc)
+2 java / 20% ias / resist gloves (+resists, etc)
1x FCR Ring
1x Raven
Arachs
Rare Boots (tri-resist + frw + fhr)
8x Skiller + BO Cube *OR* 7x Skiller + CTA Inventory *OR* 9x Skiller + Prebuff
Anni/Torch
10x 20/5 LIFE/RES scs
(*OR* get fhr from gc or scs, but fhr is more or less useless here thanks to d/a/e)

keep forgetting your plague is almost double mine ( 40k )
i guess 3 plagues doesnt sound too bad at all

now that you switched your initial setup to fcr amu+jav/ias gloves it almost uses same gear as osama. Might get me some skillers, respec and try this 1 out later.