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Feb 14 2010 03:42am
why u dont skill 2 in mb ? i heard shadowmaster cast then 30% more mbs after teleports on opponents ?!
and dragon claw i never used .. in my mind not useful ?! explain please when u would use it and why

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Feb 14 2010 04:00am
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why u dont skill 2 in mb ? i heard shadowmaster cast then 30% more mbs after teleports on opponents ?!
and dragon claw i never used .. in my mind not useful ?! explain please when u would use it and why

I haven't noticed much of a difference between 2mb and 1mb. I have not looked at the AI code, but my guess would be that the chance of casting a skill is directly proportional to the percent of relevant skill points spent. If this is the case, the benefit of boosting mindblast is linear, so the difference between 1 mb and 2 mb is not any more significant than the difference between 2 mb and 3 mb. I suppose there maybe certain breakpoints that raise the frequency of casting a specific skill. I think it is something that should be looked into, as such information could be quite valuable.

If you're really concerned about having a summon dish out mindblast, you can try using a warrior (not master) and then having mindblast on right click whenever possible, including quickly flashing to mindblast after casting a skill. It's hard to manage though and the warrior dies more easily.

Dragon claw is amazing, especially for vita necs. 102 fcr + bos + dragon claw is very effective. The IAS bug used for trap laying also applies to dragon claw, so be sure to use the bug if you can.

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Feb 15 2010 12:55pm
i was wondering does the ww skill itself have to to be a skiller higher than 2
right now it says +-47 Damage and Attack +5
do i need damage to be a positive to work effectively
i know its all based on venom, but i didnt know if it would improve my overall damage

I play on BETA, so access to items is very limited, anni's arent that popular so i lose alot of + to all skills

Also. I use Fools GT's Of Quickness (40 Ias)
Do i use that over glove instead of boot because it has more base ias than chaos?

This post was edited by Nightmares on Feb 15 2010 12:58pm
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Feb 15 2010 01:00pm
Quote (Roman_90 @ Feb 14 2010 09:42am)
why u dont skill 2 in mb ? i heard shadowmaster cast then 30% more mbs after teleports on opponents ?!
and dragon claw i never used .. in my mind not useful ?! explain please when u would use it and why


2 point mb is a placebo effect, not enough of a difference from 1 point to really care about, its when its maxed that it actually makes a big difference.
also the 30% you heard is a random number someone made up.

dclaw is useful to chainlock casters with, particularly necros, you can use normal attack if you want to save the 2 points, dclaw is a nice attack for that purpose however.
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Feb 15 2010 01:03pm
Quote (Nightmares @ Feb 15 2010 02:55pm)
i was wondering does the ww skill itself have to to be a skiller higher than 2
right now it says +-47 Damage and Attack +5
do i need damage to be a positive to work effectively
i know its all based on venom, but i didnt know if it would improve my overall damage

I play on BETA, so access to items is very limited, anni's arent that popular so i lose alot of + to all skills

Also. I use Fools GT's Of Quickness (40 Ias)
Do i use that over glove instead of boot because it has more base ias than chaos?


ww is fine at lvl 1

the faster claw will be used over the boot side... read about wsm glitching to understand why
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Quote (Nightmares @ Feb 15 2010 06:55pm)
i was wondering does the ww skill itself have to to be a skiller higher than 2
right now it says +-47 Damage and Attack +5
do i need damage to be a positive to work effectively
i know its all based on venom, but i didnt know if it would improve my overall damage

I play on BETA, so access to items is very limited, anni's arent that popular so i lose alot of + to all skills

Also. I use Fools GT's Of Quickness (40 Ias)
Do i use that over glove instead of boot because it has more base ias than chaos?


if you're using a fools gt of quickness then your damage is pretty much all ow%/venom, you dont have proper claws for physical damage anyway, so don't worry about how much ww nerfs your damage.
I'd be more concerned about the lack of +skills for proper shadow discipline and trap skills.

what type of chaos claw are you using? that matters for how to place your fools claw.
fools should always be your primary claw.
if you are using a gt/rt chaos, put fools over gloves and use standard equipping (fools primary)
if you are using a suwayyah chaos for wsm bugging, put fools over boots and use wsm bug equipping (fools primary)
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Feb 15 2010 02:05pm
yes im using gt/rt thanks Ziecheik!
I understand the glitch, but i don't like glitching for duels, kinda similar to dsync.

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Quote (Nightmares @ Feb 15 2010 08:05pm)
yes im using gt/rt thanks Ziecheik!
I understand the glitch, but i don't like glitching for duels, kinda similar to dsync.


no avoiding desync in duels, its there even if you don't like it. especially on ww characters, gotta learn em buff whirls. :P
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Feb 15 2010 02:13pm
Quote (Ziecheik @ Feb 15 2010 08:08pm)
no avoiding desync in duels, its there even if you don't like it. especially on ww characters, gotta learn em buff whirls. :P


Buff whirls? as in Glitching?
Is this the only possible way?
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Feb 15 2010 02:14pm
Quote (Nightmares @ 15 Feb 2010 21:13)
Buff whirls? as in Glitching?
Is this the only possible way?


he means that you desynch simply by doing long whirls/walking/wsg'ing etc and as such is unavoidable.
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