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Jul 19 2011 09:54am
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Jul 19 2011 11:21am)
Not to mention that it casts Chilling Armor wich helps frame lock opponents.

I'll say it again:


youre going to framelock opponents in pvm?
very interesting
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Jul 19 2011 08:30pm
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Jul 19 2011 06:15pm)
Very nice guide, plenty of detail.

I guess I'm just confused as to why anyone would actually need this guide to figure out that Fortitude is obviously superior to Treachery :huh:


because it isn't.
obviously you haven't read anything of it.
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Jul 19 2011 08:33pm
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Jul 19 2011 11:15am)
Very nice guide, plenty of detail.

I guess I'm just confused as to why anyone would actually need this guide to figure out that Fortitude is obviously superior to Treachery :huh:


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Jul 19 2011 09:46pm
FORTITUDE FOR PROS./PVP
TREACHERY FOR PVM KIDS THAT DONT KNOW/DONT PVP

END OF STORY.
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Quote (bioshocker @ Jul 19 2011 11:46pm)
FORTITUDE FOR PROS./PVP
TREACHERY FOR PVM KIDS THAT DONT KNOW/DONT PVP

END OF STORY.


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Jul 19 2011 10:00pm
imo this post has been an epic waste of time.

but i must say that i appriciate the effort both feanur and lightman did with the calculations.
but still an epic freaking way of wasting time.

first of all this kind of calculations will only ever be applied to bots playing.
since if human controller it all depends on reactions and how succesfull you are in getting your merc to the monster to kill.

and if you are playing with bots, than i have a very serious question for you, why do you play this game?
nr 1 it can not be about finding stuff since if a bot found it, it doesnt give you any pleasure.
it can only ever be about 1 out of basiclly 3 things
nr 1, getting rich for the sake of being rich, wich is very retarded since why wasting irl time to get rich in a game when you could instead focus that on getting less poor irl.
nr 2, getting rich so you could get the gear you want on your characters,pvm or pvp*... still retarded due to the fact that when you have the gear you want there would be no point still playing.
nr 3, for the sake of "tuning" your bots to get the most out of them, now i will have to say that diablo 2 would NEVER had been my choice in that case

*: why in the world would you EVER chose diablo 2 for duells and pvp in general when there are a myriad of games out there that are way more balanced and where it actually requires skill instead of wsg, cast this, walk that etc etc etc etc as it is in this game.

for these reasons above this post has been an epic waste of time why i spent moer time writing this then reading the post in the first place would most likely be that:
a: the t-shirt im wearing has a something written on it wich is true (it says powered by adhd)
b: brain damage (most likely)
c: to tired to care since im at work
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Jul 19 2011 10:01pm
It's not a matter of simple numbers.

Treachery has to proc fade which doesn't always happen right away.
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Jul 19 2011 10:23pm
Fort is much superior to Treach

Fort Adds More Defense, physical dmg, res, life

Fade does add damage reduction but with Fortitude ur merc will have 30K+ Def easily (Nothing in PVM will hit it so it wont need DR)

Physical dmg>venom because auras will up ur physical damage but doesnt affect venom dmg

Yes fade does add more resistance when it taps but merc will die before it ever taps and the fortitude will add enough resistance to tank a conviction aura venom lord in chaos sanctuary

I have used both and Fort is Far Superior then Treach for pvp and pvm

your clearly over thinking this
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Quote (Anomandaris @ Jul 20 2011 07:00am)
imo this post has been an epic waste of time.

but i must say that i appriciate the effort both feanur and lightman did with the calculations.
but still an epic freaking way of wasting time.

first of all this kind of calculations will only ever be applied to bots playing.
since if human controller it all depends on reactions and how succesfull you are in getting your merc to the monster to kill.

and if you are playing with bots, than i have a very serious question for you, why do you play this game?
nr 1 it can not be about finding stuff since if a bot found it, it doesnt give you any pleasure.
it can only ever be about 1 out of basiclly 3 things
nr 1, getting rich for the sake of being rich, wich is very retarded since why wasting irl time to get rich in a game when you could instead focus that on getting less poor irl.
nr 2, getting rich so you could get the gear you want on your characters,pvm or pvp*... still retarded due to the fact that when you have the gear you want there would be no point still playing.
nr 3, for the sake of "tuning" your bots to get the most out of them, now i will have to say that diablo 2 would NEVER had been my choice in that case

*: why in the world would you EVER chose diablo 2 for duells and pvp in general when there are a myriad of games out there that are way more balanced and where it actually requires skill instead of wsg, cast this, walk that etc etc etc etc as it is in this game.

for these reasons above this post has been an epic waste of time why i spent moer time writing this then reading the post in the first place would most likely be that:
a: the t-shirt im wearing has a something written on it wich is true (it says powered by adhd)
b: brain damage (most likely)
c: to tired to care since im at work


refer to FAQ #7

Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 20 2011 07:01am)
It's not a matter of simple numbers.

Treachery has to proc fade which doesn't always happen right away.


refer to FAQ #1

Quote (scrplayer4711 @ Jul 20 2011 07:23am)
Fort is much superior to Treach

Fort Adds More Defense, physical dmg, res, life

Fade does add damage reduction but with Fortitude ur merc will have 30K+ Def easily (Nothing in PVM will hit it so it wont need DR)

Physical dmg>venom because auras will up ur physical damage but doesnt affect venom dmg

Yes fade does add more resistance when it taps but merc will die before it ever taps and the fortitude will add enough resistance to tank a conviction aura venom lord in chaos sanctuary

I have used both and Fort is Far Superior then Treach for pvp and pvm

your clearly over thinking this


refer to FAQ #5 & #7
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