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Sep 19 2010 09:16am
Quote (Steffer @ Sep 19 2010 09:15am)
kid and his theories..


kid and his vast collection of ears and tears
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Sep 19 2010 09:17am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 19 2010 04:16pm)
kid and his vast collection of ears and tears


as i said, try record a duel of either of u winning one of ur "good" hammerdins and let us all laugh
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as i said, try record a duel of either of u winning one of ur "good" hammerdins and let us all laugh


sure, I'll go expend time and effort instead of just sitting here laughing at shitty euros
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Sep 19 2010 09:18am
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What they dont realise kb and slow owns hammers

and most ppl dont know how to properly ww+wc dysynch with their bvc.

Seriously I have met hdins who used everything on me. And a couple of good friends of mine.

Only thing that can beat a good barb is a good foh or v/t assuming gm.


no^^ :ss
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Sep 19 2010 09:19am
Quote (hue_two @ Sep 19 2010 09:18am)
no^^ :ss


y, good bvc makes foh = negative damach
v/t is just weaker smiter
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Sep 19 2010 09:19am
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I'm afraid to say theres some truth to that.
As in, against say a pure hammerdin they might do the same thing almost to the dot.


The *real* advantage is that arreats gives you more versatility against multiple opponents. If you were "GM" dueling a hammerdin, and his buddy fireballer stepped in, he might roast you.
If you were dueling a "pure hammerdin", and he turned out to be a libby or a mage, you'd definitely want to wear arreats instead of guillaimes (ok coa would be better)


They both do basically the exact same thing when you weigh damage vs life, its just other mods that might matter more in other duels that arreats gains from in extra- things like resists, leap, defense, etc
so you can wear guillaimes or arreats and get the exact same mods to that duel, but arreats *also* gives you mods that help in other duels

Guillaimes gives you +100 in column A, +99 in column B, +0 in columns C, D, &  E
Arreats gives you +99 in column A, +100 in column B, +20 in columns C, D, & E

In a strictly utilitarian approach, arreats is virtually always the better helm.


Well, I'm speaking from a strictly priv dueling view where 20/11s can be swapped in as needed etc

Also I'm not really a fan of utilitarianism, but that's another discussion.
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Sep 19 2010 09:24am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 19 2010 03:17pm)
sure, I'll go expend time and effort instead of just sitting here laughing at shitty euros


goomshill Steffer is right lacerators suck balls.
Even if you do manage to amp him he can just tele out and cleanse it out in 2sec
If anything widow is better.

You dont need to kill hammers with those things.
Hammer has a few strategies and if he is quick on his feet will always be on major
offensive no matter what.
A defensive hammer = dead

kb + slow and wc+ww dysynch rapes any one. No matter how super great
their. Locking, boxing, synching, holyfreeze fohing with smite stun locking skills are

He will not win. Period.
Iso Vids of pro hammers of today or shut the fuck up.
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Sep 19 2010 09:28am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 19 2010 05:08pm)
step 1) euro spawn asks me to duel in nightmare
step 2) euro spawn casts oak charges nonstop ^___^
step 3) pathetic euro spawn never charges, only teleports with oak on top and tries to smite + foh
step 4) pathetic euro spawn realizes that lacerators freely proc amp damage on his crappy oak spawns
step 5) brawler > euro


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Sep 19 2010 09:32am
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goomshill Steffer is right lacerators suck balls.
Even if you do manage to amp him he can just tele out and cleanse it out in 2sec
If anything widow is better.

Lul, the point is that if he is using oak, it both kills his oak and amps him extremely easily (every time he is close)
if he is not, it provides 20x the damage of widowmaker, making it impossible to ignore.
having a barb double throw lacerators at you will do the same DPS as his whirlwind if one procs amp.

meaning you can just teleport away and wait for amp to wear off, return, and get the exact same beating.

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kb + slow and wc+ww dysynch rapes any one. No matter how super great
their. Locking, boxing, synching, holyfreeze fohing with smite stun locking skills are


a hammer can dick around and fidget while spamming hammers in circles all day and you wouldn't be able to do a thing except sit outside and maybe leap at him.
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Sep 19 2010 09:35am
Experience >> theories
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