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Quote (praest @ Sep 18 2016 02:13pm)
Got a question:

Hw would a craft glove with 10cb/15/15/life do compared to steelrends/bloodfist?
Wouldn't it give more hp than bloodfists and only a bit less dmg than rends?

I'm using an 100hp armor with 4x7fhr jewels so i reach 42bp without bloodfist :)


If a pair of 20ar/10cb/15str/15dex/20 life craft gloves existed, I would never use anything else.

I don't like that jeweler's armor solution. Fort is too much to give up, if only for the extra defense when CA goes off. You're better off putting a shael in cerebus, using 24 fhr belt, and ber storm/FoC if you want 42% fhr with cereb. To be honest, though, you should never need more than 20% fhr in melee duels with max block.
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If a pair of 20ar/10cb/15str/15dex/20 life craft gloves existed, I would never use anything else.

I don't like that jeweler's armor solution. Fort is too much to give up, if only for the extra defense when CA goes off. You're better off putting a shael in cerebus, using 24 fhr belt, and ber storm/FoC if you want 42% fhr with cereb. To be honest, though, you should never need more than 20% fhr in melee duels with max block.


Yea, such gloves would be perfect!

The reason behind using the 100hp armor is that forti is BM in Europe GM melee. So i need an option for those duels. For Fury vs Fury i will wear Fortitude like you said.
Isn't 42fhr a must vs zealots?
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Sep 20 2016 02:38pm
I'm no inkanddagger but I only went 42 fhr if they had really high average damage hi ink ✊
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Have you ever tried a mace 5fpa like a seraph rod? If so how'd it do and gear swaps if any?
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I'm tracking this topic for future reference.
Great job Ink!
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Sep 23 2016 12:59pm
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Yea, such gloves would be perfect!

The reason behind using the 100hp armor is that forti is BM in Europe GM melee. So i need an option for those duels. For Fury vs Fury i will wear Fortitude like you said.
Isn't 42fhr a must vs zealots?


Sent you a PM. I'll post it below.

But no, 42 fhr isn't usually necessary. 80% of the time I am using the 20% FHR breakpoint with cerebus (5 frame FHR). Your life base should be preventing you from even going into FHR on most attacks.


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If you can't wear fort, you need to focus on other ways of achieving damage. I'd only use stat gloves with Fort, honestly.

What weapon are you using?

An example I can think of is this:

Fort = 300%

So, if you remove fort, how close can you get to achieving something as close as possible to that?

Stat gloves have no ed, but Steelrends have 60ed and 20 str = 80% ed (you aren't using that str for anything else, so consider it to be ed%. 1str = 1ed%)

300-80 = 220

Now how are we getting there while still using stat enhancing items?

IMO:

Ber cerebus, Ber stormshield, as close to 24fhr/30str/80life/10ow belt as you can get, and then:

100 life jewelers armor with 3x 7fhr/30ed/9/str/9dext jewels and one 60ar/30ed/9str/9dext = 120% ed OR 156% ed if you don't build to the str.

So you're still 64%-100% less ed% than a fort, but more life. You will have 45% FHR. And you'll have more damage than you do with your current setup because a 10% ow belt is more valuable than the 60% additional ed you could get from jeweling your helm and shield.


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