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Jan 24 2007 03:58am
Quote (Trae8 @ Wed, Jan 24 2007, 10:45am)
ya, I wouldn't really want to help you guys anyway, although you all desperately need it. OH NOES, the scary smiters are coming... AHHH what is my WW sin to do... I can't win... ahhhh 45k def, now what shit i'm fucked... ahhhh... unhostile unhostile pls, Smiter pweese unhostile me, I can't beat you... ahhh you too good smile.gif
Hey asshole, stop dodging and answer my question. It might be nice to notice that all this isnt about REGULAR PUB SMITERS.

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Jan 24 2007 04:00am
lols, the noobs are angy now smile.gif

Mr Unbeatable Smiter, Pweese unhostile my poor little WW sin, i'm defenseless.... ah tele smite, shit were all gonna die !!!!!!!!!
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Jan 24 2007 04:15am
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lols, the noobs are angy now  smile.gif

Mr Unbeatable Smiter, Pweese unhostile my poor little WW sin, i'm defenseless.... ah tele smite, shit were all gonna die !!!!!!!!!


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Jan 24 2007 04:35am
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Hey asshole, stop dodging and answer my question


Ooh raged, I can almost hear your monitor breaking lol. And i've told you dudes several times my sin isn't what you think it is. It's got some nice physical damage on it, much stronger then any ghost sin you have I guarantee you that much lol. If you have trouble with smiters, maybe ask for a real build smile.gif
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Jan 24 2007 04:36am
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Hey asshole, stop dodging and answer my question


Ooh raged, I can almost hear your monitor breaking lol. And i've told you dudes several times my sin isn't what you think it is. It's got some nice physical damage on it, much stronger then any ghost sin you have I guarantee you that much lol. If you have trouble with smiters, maybe ask for a real build smile.gif


pls post some screens i´m curious
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Jan 24 2007 04:43am
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Hey asshole, stop dodging and answer my question


Ooh raged, I can almost hear your monitor breaking lol. And i've told you dudes several times my sin isn't what you think it is. It's got some nice physical damage on it, much stronger then any ghost sin you have I guarantee you that much lol. If you have trouble with smiters, maybe ask for a real build smile.gif


u r stupid
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Jan 24 2007 04:52am
Quote (Trae8 @ Wed, Jan 24 2007, 08:34am)
Well look dude, i'm sorry you find smiters so hard to duel.  Chances are your sin needs a better build, better gear, and you need time to develop better skills.  Maybe instead of bitching so much, you should post up your assassin build and gear etc so everyone can try to help you get better.  But basically if your build is good all you have to do is stay WW'ing as much as possible.  There's no need to predict or time WW's perfectly or any of that.  Just stay WW'ing as much as possible.  Drop a trap or two every 5 seconds, mind blast the smiter once every 10 seconds, and basically just stay WW'ing.  It's not that tough.  If your a barb and smiters are slowing you and beating you, you can always life tap them to even the playing field. 

So chill out, post your sin, and lets see exactly what the problem is.  There's gotta be something wrong if your getting raped by smiters, maybe I can help ya  smile.gif


actually i dont. i consistently crush most smiters i duel, especially in 1v1 with proper gear. not as easy as with barb of course but still only a select few give me problems. that doesn't change the fact that they sometimes still are able to land hits on me by just charging straight up and smiting. what you dont seem to understand though is that i am talking about the absolute best players with proper anti-melee (or in this case anti-wwsin) gear, and this is what the issue has been about since the start. noone ever claimed that wwsins get raped by smiters or anything remotely similar. what i am saying is that you cannot beat the best smiters with meleechars, not even wwsins and wwbarbs. i am pretty sure most barbplayers on west still disagree with me for obvious reasons. i dont care, and honestly, how many smiters using the gear and tactics i've mentioned that also were played by an absolute top player have you seen? i have seen three, maybe four smiterplayers that would be able to pull that off with some training in my whole d2 career, and out of those only two used telesmite regularly (no slow though).
staying in ww as much as possible is the best thing you can do from the smiters point of view since it allows him to continously telesmite or desynchcharge/smite at will. mixing random whirls with running and teleporting works better but is still futile mainly because of low frw and inability to slow smiter. what to do when out of mana btw? ^^
from my point of view you keep underestimating this type of smiter. self-explanatory if you haven't dueled them and experimented with them as much as i have. as a sidenote lifetap is completely useless vs any kind of paladin.
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Jan 24 2007 04:54am
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pls post some screens i´m curious


For you buddy, no problem. I owe you one for helping me verify my screenshots to own the rains other thread hehe. I'll load up and snap a few screenies, show you a sin build you guys have never seen before smile.gif
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Jan 24 2007 05:07am
Screenie #1: No Venom cast at all yet, just chillin in town showing you my physical damage. 3k physical, sexy huh smile.gif

http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot0677yz.jpg


Screenie #2: Venom is cast now, but still in my full ghost set up as usual ( yes that says 6.08k damage, 15273 ar, 4501 life, in Ghost sin set up )

http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot0688np.jpg


Screenie #3: Venom is cast now, and some ar boosting gear is on now, but again, still in ghost sin set up (lets call this my smiter fucker up'er gear hehe. 27k+ attack rating, 4667 life, still full ghost set up)

http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot0695zp.jpg



My sin has 65% Fcr, 86% Fhr, 9 frame trap placing, 25% open wounds on both claws, and BIG Damage, attack rating, and life. Sexy?
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Jan 24 2007 05:07am
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Hey asshole, stop dodging and answer my question


Ooh raged, I can almost hear your monitor breaking lol. And i've told you dudes several times my sin isn't what you think it is. It's got some nice physical damage on it, much stronger then any ghost sin you have I guarantee you that much lol. If you have trouble with smiters, maybe ask for a real build smile.gif
You seriously are a nitwitted moron. You fail to answer my question but keep on spouting irrelevant bullshit instead?

Lol, what are those sc's? What AR-boosting gear do you use? What % block? You happen to keep some pre-buff stuf, you cant add 3k venom to your WW without it (that is when you have an inv full of sc's lol). Mind-blast damage?

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