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Apr 20 2011 03:05pm
Okay, so i replicated this build to the T. And this is what I got.
2.4klife
3.3k cs
62k plague
1.4k ga
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Apr 20 2011 03:57pm
Quote (Hydrochlorofluorocarbons @ Apr 20 2011 11:05am)
Okay, so i replicated this build to the T. And this is what I got.
2.4klife 
3.3k cs
62k plague
1.4k ga


Using trangs gloves or kb/ias gloves?
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Apr 20 2011 04:55pm
Quote (Hydrochlorofluorocarbons @ Apr 20 2011 03:05pm)
Okay, so i replicated this build to the T. And this is what I got.
2.4klife 
3.3k cs
62k plague
1.4k ga


I'm not sure how you did that. Heres a screenshot from my hero editor character:



note that shes using the wrong kind of bow, a mat instead of a shadow bow. otherwise pretty spot on.
thats at level 99 with 'perfect gear', subbing out 2 life skillers for the cta. In a perfect setup, I would either have 1 more skiller and use a cube and 1 less sc, or I would prebuff bo and use 2 extra skillers
hence the lower damage/life values. In pub games, I feel its easier to just put your cta in your inventory so theres less steps involved in casting bo, making you less likely to get jumped while doing it or drop it.
very useful for longer duels, too.

Now heres a shot of my *actual* zon, from east/ladder, using common gear I could assemble in less than 2 weeks into ladder. No especially godly rares, just plain +2/20/kb gloves and plain +2/20 amulet:




Now how the heck did you end up with numbers that low?
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Apr 20 2011 10:22pm
owell. still need to write the newer version
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Apr 21 2011 10:27am
Exactly how well does this build do vs everyone? In the new guide, an analysis of each build and a level of easy/medium/hard for each would be awesome.
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Apr 21 2011 10:53am
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Exactly how well does this build do vs everyone? In the new guide, an analysis of each build and a level of easy/medium/hard for each would be awesome.


It does pretty well vs all chars. My limited experience with the original build is that it has a steep learning curve, but I had no where near perfect gear. I didn't know how to telestomp though, which is way important. I could see it being viable against everything though for sure
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Apr 21 2011 10:58am
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It does pretty well vs all chars. My limited experience with the original build is that it has a steep learning curve, but I had no where near perfect gear. I didn't know how to telestomp though, which is way important. I could see it being viable against everything though for sure


This is basically what I would come up with on this build.

BvC - Probably the easiest thing to beat. You can sit in poison, walk away, throw lf, or even CS them. If you're well built with MB, they'll die before you. My bowazon usually beat barbs just by walking away with her Titans/SS switch.
Necs - Since you have tele, they can bone prison (which is bullshit) so they'll be a lot harder.
Druids - Probably very hard
Assassins - If you can catch them in poison, you might be able to chip away at their health and get that 1 last lite fury before they kill you. Other than that, they'll probably just mb/trap lock/ww you to death with ease
Paladins - Smiters/VTs are probably very hard. I think this build can beat your typical spammerdin with relative ease. Get him in poison then run. Even a Hdin with a grief would probably fall here.
Sorcs - ES would be a lot easier and if they got hit by poison they're probably going down. Vita (especially with max block) would probably be very hard. Again, it's a matter of getting them in poison I guess.
Other Zons - Will probably beat most bowas if you get in close enough. Javas are easier because you can sit in your poison as they try and CS you.

This post was edited by Juicy_J on Apr 21 2011 10:58am
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Apr 21 2011 11:18am
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This is basically what I would come up with on this build.

BvC - Probably the easiest thing to beat. You can sit in poison, walk away, throw lf, or even CS them. If you're well built with MB, they'll die before you. My bowazon usually beat barbs just by walking away with her Titans/SS switch.
Necs - Since you have tele, they can bone prison (which is bullshit) so they'll be a lot harder.
Druids - Probably very hard
Assassins - If you can catch them in poison, you might be able to chip away at their health and get that 1 last lite fury before they kill you. Other than that, they'll probably just mb/trap lock/ww you to death with ease
Paladins - Smiters/VTs are probably very hard. I think this build can beat your typical spammerdin with relative ease. Get him in poison then run. Even a Hdin with a grief would probably fall here.
Sorcs - ES would be a lot easier and if they got hit by poison they're probably going down. Vita (especially with max block) would probably be very hard. Again, it's a matter of getting them in poison I guess.
Other Zons - Will probably beat most bowas if you get in close enough. Javas are easier because you can sit in your poison as they try and CS you.


Druids- Actually poison bypasses cyclone armor and fury will obliterate their minions. When they stomp you shift CS or plague cloud them. Finish them with GA or multi. With my horrid gear druids were pretty easy.

On my sorcs I can't beat this build at all.

Smiters and v/ts were tough but beatable, depended on how good they were and if I knew their dueling tactics.

I imagine all of these duels would've been way easier if I wasn't doing pathetic damage or had knockback gloves. I think the modified build would be better regardless, but requires much more specific or perfect gear to be effective.
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Apr 21 2011 12:41pm
it all depends on the player. I could take down the best druids on east when they were chugging potions nonstop, just because like above, plague rips through cyclone (and they'll run out of antidotes before I die)
basically, just stand in plague, throw furies until their minions explode, then either hit them with furys or garrows to knockback them as they retreat. If you have a namelock garrow, its even possible to chainlock but its very risky
you can kill most by just hitting them with knockback furys until they die

fire/light sorcs there should be no way for you to lose
bliz sorcs, yeah you'll probably want stacked resists or else they can OHKO you

smiters/vts, it depends. If they're just the braindead kind that just namelocks you with charge and runs straight at you and smites if you tank for even an instant, theres only one thing to do-
just throw a plague, walk through it throwing furies, and as they close the distance, walk away (not run), and their smite will never be able to hit you, and charge will only have a 1/20 to 1/10 chance to hit you
if they ever hold down smite too long or you get a break, teleport away- but never cast teleport more than once if the first one is interrupted. just keep walking away. and the rest of the time, if you get a break, throw 1 fury/bolt at a time and walk away
played right, you will never, ever, ever get hit by smite. and then its just a question of if your plague can kill them before they charge you the 500 times it takes for charge to kill you due to block/dodge/defence and mass hp
its all a duel about luck, but usually the luck is *heavily* on your side.


knockback is definitely a huge boon against BvC's and Wind druids, and a few other duels. Actually its pretty much awesome in every single duel from smiter (you can use fury or even bolt against them as you walk away) to sorc to necro to zvz
lots of duels revolve around subbing in gear or tanking it out, remember. Stuff like fohers and blizz sorcs need swap gear, whereas you need to tank a BvC hardcore. BvC vs Damach duels are all about who dies first, and they can leaplock you and you can furylock them.
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Apr 21 2011 12:42pm
i would imagine
necs , druid mayb some assa's would be the hardest for this build
i know my plague/bowa finds it near impossible to kill necros :(
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