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Quote (Nshtaa @ Fri, Feb 2 2007, 12:29am)


Eh, coa is a nice helm yes...But a barb visonary is gg..Bo/Ed/Ias/Ar/Dr/Resists/Life/Ect > Coa.



you are a joker right?
and since you have dueled top barbs on west nl maybe youll siggest whats in this guide they didnt use or did differently?
cuz im pretty shure De4dEyE and McM are buddies and they know their stuff !

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Quote (Nshtaa @ Fri, Feb 2 2007, 04:29am)
Triww can rape a hammer to, just catch him while hes charging around like a pussy. I agree with you on the smiter, tele away tongue.gif

Eh, coa is a nice helm yes...But a barb visonary is gg..Bo/Ed/Ias/Ar/Dr/Resists/Life/Ect > Coa.

BUt i told you i liked the build, not dissing. My barbs built hella diff, cause I make my own builds...dont like to mimik biggrin.gif


Even the best visionary is still lacking. +skills aren't a problem, ED [guessing damage] adds almost nothing, IAS is useless outside of zerking [and what mod is there for IAS on a helm? Are you talking about a jewel or something?], AR is really not a problem unless you're going after a pal/barb, and the most DR you can get on a visionary is 16 with 2x Bers [which isn't possible if you socket this helm to get IAS]. If you're going after wind druids/smiters anything physical, why would you use a visionary? You'd have to swap belts at the very least in order to get some good DR. CoA's FHR + DR > any visionary.

And your barb has 8.5k life because he's pure vit. Mine isn't. Pure vit is weaker against good hdins because they don't need to charge around to kill you. Tele hammer in different spots means you're not going to rape him with one pass [unless you're lucky], and he keeps his 75% block, which means every pass you take is going to hurt. No talking about WWing blind spots, either. Anyone who knows what they're doing is going to walk around to cover that spot up.

Also, I've got about the same damage, and I don't care about my caster AR seeing as any high def opp will force you to put on angelics/hsarus. If you need to hit a high def pally/barb, you're going to use angelics/hsarus, so your caster AR means little.
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what about clegs for bm instead of doomz... since i dont have one just laying around lol
clegs is crappy. Use it only versus random smiters if you are desperate for victory. And even then only with a Doom.
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Don't degrade my posts with your ROFLs. At least, give some reasoning behind that reaction, ok?


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Calm down Olga...


olga plz


Your how to kill a barb thread is right under this one. THANKS T______________________T


my pleasure ^^
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Quote (Nshtaa @ Fri, Feb 2 2007, 03:10am)
Eh, I myself have dueled with the #1-10 Bvcs on uswest nl. You don't want long ww's, you want short, triangle ww's. Also your gear, isnt all that gg....But i like how you explained everything, you just need to learn alil more about barbs...then re write what needs to be changed.

Ill rate this guide a 6 1/2 cause of how well it explains stuff.


i rate your iq 1/10 cause of mental retardation.
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Quote (Nshtaa @ Fri, Feb 2 2007, 04:29am)
Triww can rape a hammer to, just catch him while hes charging around like a pussy. I agree with you on the smiter, tele away tongue.gif

Eh, coa is a nice helm yes...But a barb visonary is gg..Bo/Ed/Ias/Ar/Dr/Resists/Life/Ect > Coa.

BUt i told you i liked the build, not dissing. My barbs built hella diff, cause I make my own builds...dont like to mimik biggrin.gif


visionary is fucking useless and you should blow your brains out for even thinking about using one.
tell me _one_ single matchup where visionary is superior to coa/08valk/guillaumes or just stfu random.
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Quote (Nshtaa @ Fri, Feb 2 2007, 04:29am)
Triww can rape a hammer to, just catch him while hes charging around like a pussy. I agree with you on the smiter, tele away tongue.gif

Eh, coa is a nice helm yes...But a barb visonary is gg..Bo/Ed/Ias/Ar/Dr/Resists/Life/Ect > Coa.

BUt i told you i liked the build, not dissing. My barbs built hella diff, cause I make my own builds...dont like to mimik biggrin.gif


visionary is fucking useless and you should blow your brains out for even thinking about using one.
tell me _one_ single matchup where visionary is superior to coa/08valk/guillaumes or just stfu random.


Come play d2pk Mr Dagon. Fusa and I promise free shakos n war travs n shit.




And a serious question. Why do my wws sometimes freeze completely in place after I tele on someone? Also sometimes after I tele and try to leap I end up leaping like full screen, despite the cursor being right on me when I clicked? Is this just lag? I've not seen anything like it and I'm not a barb expert. Wtfhalp?

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Quote (GIFF @ Fri, Feb 2 2007, 08:40am)
Quote (Nshtaa @ Fri, Feb 2 2007, 04:29am)
Triww can rape a hammer to, just catch him while hes charging around like a pussy. I agree with you on the smiter, tele away tongue.gif

Eh, coa is a nice helm yes...But a barb visonary is gg..Bo/Ed/Ias/Ar/Dr/Resists/Life/Ect > Coa.

BUt i told you i liked the build, not dissing. My barbs built hella diff, cause I make my own builds...dont like to mimik biggrin.gif


visionary is fucking useless and you should blow your brains out for even thinking about using one.
tell me _one_ single matchup where visionary is superior to coa/08valk/guillaumes or just stfu random.


Come play d2pk Mr Dagon. Fusa and I promise free shakos n war travs n shit.




And a serious question. Why do my wws sometimes freeze completely in place after I tele on someone? Also sometimes after I tele and try to leap I end up leaping like full screen, despite the cursor being right on me when I clicked? Is this just lag? I've not seen anything like it and I'm not a barb expert. Wtfhalp?


leap over a screen is caused by lag
ww_in_place i dunno, i hate it, but i saw a sin who ww'd in 1 place for like 5 min, then he had to s/e LOL
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my best leap is ~ 25 seconds smile.gif - I was like hulk jumped up in front of town adn completely disspaeard from screen

ww in place is caused by lag I think.. also I sometimes ww with namelock (not on purpose) like 3 screens superfast and kill somebody... dunno what's that either
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Quote (roky8 @ Fri, Feb 2 2007, 10:02am)
my best leap is ~ 25 seconds smile.gif - I was like hulk jumped up in front of town adn completely disspaeard from screen

ww in place is caused by lag I think..  also I sometimes ww with namelock (not on purpose) like 3 screens superfast and kill somebody... dunno what's that either


rofl, i did that after i died in town at stash biggrin.gif
funny
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Namelock ww sucks >=(

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