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Jun 25 2010 06:48am
Quote (karmapolice513 @ Jun 25 2010 02:22pm)
Meh, this is actually effective though.
I believe dragon&destruction does more damage ;) Against non fire immunes that is. All the ton of hydras and volcanos stack together and pummel everything

This post was edited by yaf on Jun 25 2010 06:52am
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Jun 25 2010 07:20am
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I believe dragon&destruction does more damage ;) Against non fire immunes that is. All the ton of hydras and volcanos stack together and pummel everything


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Jun 25 2010 07:43am
Quote (yaf @ Jun 25 2010 07:48am)
I believe dragon&destruction does more damage ;) Against non fire immunes that is. All the ton of hydras and volcanos stack together and pummel everything


No. Its not even close. Dragon sucks for its ctc procs, but dont let facts get in the way. It is however a pretty good wep for its magic damage, ITD, leach and cb. There's better options for those mods for the physical damage focused kicker (stormlash, death war spike, fleshripper, azurewrath) and if your trying to add AOE like rift, it's just weaksauce.


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Destruction

23% Chance To Cast Level 12 Volcano On Striking
5% Chance To Cast Level 23 Molten Boulder On Striking
100% Chance To Cast level 45 Meteor When You Die
15% Chance To Cast Level 22 Nova On Attack
+350% Enhanced Damage
Ignore Target's Defense
Adds 100-180 Magic Damage
7% Mana Stolen Per Hit
20% Chance Of Crushing Blow
20% Deadly Strike
Prevent Monster Heal
+10 To Dexterity



lvl 12 cano
Damage: 38-40
10: Fire Damage: 38-40

Level 23 Molten Boulder On Striking
Damage: 163-191
Fire Damage: 163-191
Average Fire Damage: 193-198 per second

Level 22 Nova On Attack
Lightning Damage: 147-208


level 45 Meteor When You Die
Fire Damage: 2924-3032
Radius: 4 yards
Average Fire Damage: 602-624 per second


The only ctc worth a damm is the Meteor mod when you die. Since deeds is failure, destruction isnt offering much.


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FO
275 orb damage + 40% skill = 385 per shard at -110 enemy res (same as a level 19 cold mastery!) ( and none of the monsters in chaos have much for cold res outside the OK) Nearing ~800 damage per shard to many monsters.
(20%nw + 20% shield) On a huge pile of Shards with multiple orbs going off.





Quote (fagmo @ Jun 24 2010 04:03pm)
anyone actually tried this?

Nope its never been done, Guide posted for an exercise in theorycrafting 101. The other people saying they loved their char are just big jokers.

The vid of the char in action was clearly "photoshopped" Fooled you!

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Jun 25 2010 07:46am
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anyone actually tried this?


Yes i made the build works great u don't have anything that is immune to you. Very fun to play.
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Jun 25 2010 07:47am
does this chars works without infinity too?
and what could i use instead of infi
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Jun 25 2010 07:48am
Quote (Master_Zappy @ Jun 25 2010 03:43pm)
No. Its not even close. Dragon sucks for its ctc procs, but dont let facts get in the way. It is however a pretty good wep for its magic damage, ITD, leach and  cb.  There's better options for those mods for the physical damage focused kicker (stormlash, death war spike, fleshripper, azurewrath)  and if your trying to add AOE like rift, it's just weaksauce.





lvl 12 cano
Damage: 38-40
10: Fire Damage: 38-40

Level 23 Molten Boulder On Striking
Damage: 163-191
Fire Damage: 163-191
Average Fire Damage: 193-198 per second

Level 22 Nova On Attack
Lightning Damage: 147-208


level 45 Meteor When You Die
Fire Damage: 2924-3032
Radius: 4 yards
Average Fire Damage: 602-624 per second
Now now, compare amount of stuff that goes off over time, not one single hit. After saturation, that is the real dps ;)
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Jun 25 2010 07:56am
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Now now, compare amount of stuff that goes off over time, not one single hit. After saturation, that is the real dps ;)


The only mods that will proc frequently is Nova, which is inferior to the light damage on stormlash + static or a dream setup.

Cano is a joke.
5% on boulder isnt enough to build around. Not that it does much anyhow.



This guide is about a riftasin, not a destuction sin, so kindly create another thread if you want to discuss the merits of destruction and stop spamming here with OT non relevant opinions.





Quote (fntpwns @ Jun 25 2010 08:47am)
does this chars works without infinity too?
and what could i use instead of infi



Yes, but not nearly as well. I probably wouldnt make this char without infinnity instead choosing to go with a more traditional sin k/t setup.
If no infinnity, I would probably consider using an Reapers Merc. Decrep is win. Plus its a damm good beat stick to boot.
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Jun 25 2010 08:02am
Quote (Master_Zappy @ Jun 25 2010 03:56pm)
The only mods that will proc frequently is  Nova, which is inferior to the light damage on stormlash + static or a dream setup.

Cano is a joke.
5% on boulder isnt enough to build around. Not that it does much anyhow.
Volcano shoots 5 stars per second, able to concentrate them all on an enemy unlike orb, can stack a few volcanos on top of each other, boulder adds a bit of fire dot, can also stack, nova too. All together, it is not that bad, outside fire immus ofc ;)


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This guide is about a riftasin, not a destuction sin, so kindly create another thread if you want to discuss the merits of destruction and stop spamming here with OT non relevant opinions.
Just responed to the comment on it being the funnest char.. Which though understandable, is not completely accurate, as im sure you would agree if you tried the dragon,dragon,destruction setup ;)
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Jun 25 2010 09:12am
Sorry to say, but yaf is the greatest thing to hit this subforum since ultima1 ^_^
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Jun 25 2010 09:56am
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Volcano shoots 5 stars per second, able to concentrate them all on an enemy unlike orb, can stack a few volcanos on top of each other, boulder adds a bit of fire dot, can also stack, nova too. All together, it is not that bad, outside fire immus ofc ;)


Just responed to the comment on it being the funnest char.. Which though understandable, is not completely accurate, as im sure you would agree if you tried the dragon,dragon,destruction setup ;)


1. Obviously it's subjective, no need to point that out.
2. No, I would not agree, because a lot of the fun comes from the fact that orb actually does considerable damage. And it looks way cooler. The hydras don't actually do any damage, and that's on my auradin with maxed conviction.
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