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#221
Apr 27 2009 12:04pm
Quote (Tiidus @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 06:01pm)
then this is due to how u play, not because of ur items :P

exactly! now you're catching on

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i don't see how u can justify, a stacked res barb with low dmg, low life and low ar to be better than mass life mass ar and mass dmg with decent res barb


because my damage and life is already sufficient for every single possible duel, and theres no duel I would 'win' just because I had 25% higher stats.
Meanwhile, that 'decent resist barb' will get utterly GG'd by auradins, fohers, cold sorcs, poison necros, etc, even if he does slightly better against other characters.


I'd rather have a character that does well against *everyone* than one that does slightly better against some builds, and loses 0-100 against others
In a pubby dueling game, you should assume that you are hit by conviction & being farcasted at the same time, at all times, and should be winning vs that kind of bs

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#222
Apr 27 2009 12:04pm
Quote (sylvannos @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 06:02pm)
Es means you can have 0% dr.

Es means you can have 0% res.

That opens up so many gear options, it's crazy.

It rolls over dead to ww sin variants, but es sorc is hard as nails.


The only benefit to 0% resist is against cold. Anything else, and you're at a disadvantage. Especially poison.

And IIRC, the damage reduction by energy shield is only 25%. The cap for gear is what, 55? Therefore DR maxes out at 80%. That's a lot, yeah, but you're sacrificing a lot of damage to get to that point.
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#223
Apr 27 2009 12:06pm
Quote (clan_iraq @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 06:04pm)
exactly! now you're catching on



because my damage and life is already sufficient for every single possible duel, and theres no duel I would 'win' just because I had 25% higher stats.
Meanwhile, that 'decent resist barb' will get utterly GG'd by auradins, fohers, cold sorcs, poison necros, etc, even if he does slightly better against other characters.


I'd rather have a character that does well against *everyone* than one that does slightly better against some builds, and loses 0-100 against others


thats what stash gear is for. how often is it that you see good fohers/blizz sorc. think theres about 3 of each on ladder. so res charms arent needed for general. if u need the extra res, just switch a few stash items
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Apr 27 2009 12:06pm
Quote (clan_iraq @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 02:04pm)
exactly! now you're catching on



because my damage and life is already sufficient for every single possible duel, and theres no duel I would 'win' just because I had 25% higher stats.
Meanwhile, that 'decent resist barb' will get utterly GG'd by auradins, fohers, cold sorcs, poison necros, etc, even if he does slightly better against other characters.


I'd rather have a character that does well against *everyone* than one that does slightly better against some builds, and loses 0-100 against others
In a pubby dueling game, you should assume that you are hit by conviction & being farcasted at the same time, at all times, and should be winning vs that kind of bs


possibly better in pubs, in 1v1 gm the standard build is way better ;\

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The only benefit to 0% resist is against cold. Anything else, and you're at a disadvantage. Especially poison.

And IIRC, the damage reduction by energy shield is only 25%. The cap for gear is what, 55? Therefore DR maxes out at 80%. That's a lot, yeah, but you're sacrificing a lot of damage to get to that point.


duel me later? lol
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Apr 27 2009 12:07pm
Quote (Advariel @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 01:03pm)
Nonladder is infested with hacked items, mods, and a shitty community (as exhibited by this thread) I pretty much forget about my characters when they convert to NL.


Yes nonladder is infested with kids who actually know how to duel so keep doing that so maybe you'll think your non block es sorc is any good.
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Apr 27 2009 12:07pm
that is to say, if I had 10 bajillion forum gold, for a well built bvc, 37x 20/5's is better than 37x 3/20/20's
Stacked resists are far more important than measly damage / ar. Leave the that to BvB's, its worthless on a BvC. With just grief+beast alone, you have enough damage/AR to kill any caster, and you can't hit paladins without angelics on, even with the 3/20/20's. So if I were to stack gg charms on a char, it would be a bunch of 20/5's, maybe some 20/11's in the mix.
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Apr 27 2009 12:07pm
Quote (ant885 @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 06:06pm)
duel me later? lol

Sure. Also, correct my last post if it was wrong.

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Apr 27 2009 12:09pm
Quote (Advariel @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 02:03pm)
Nonladder is infested with hacked items, mods, and a shitty community (as exhibited by this thread) I pretty much forget about my characters when they convert to NL.


ladder is infested by mf dueler...they think they are good because noone has res gear until they duel a halfdecent barb with 2 raven. Then they make a thread in SnG forum to show how ingnorant they are and they get verballed. There is hacked items,mods, and shitty dueling community in ladder. I take it as a dodge because you can't face the truth and admit that your knowlegde is very limited when it come to PvP.

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Apr 27 2009 12:09pm
Quote (Tiidus @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 06:06pm)
thats what stash gear is for. how often is it that you see good fohers/blizz sorc. think theres about 3 of each on ladder. so res charms arent needed for general. if u need the extra res, just switch a few stash items


stashing charms is excessive. If you want a moderate bvc charm build, it should look like:
9x 15 life / 30+ life gcs
10x 19-20 life / 11% resist scs

Now really, theres no reason to switch out that for 3/20/20's or something dumb like that. 3/20/20's are only good for bvb.
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#230
Apr 27 2009 12:09pm
Quote (clan_iraq @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 06:07pm)
that is to say, if I had 10 bajillion forum gold, for a well built bvc, 37x 20/5's is better than 37x 3/20/20's
Stacked resists are far more important than measly damage / ar. Leave the that to BvB's, its worthless on a BvC. With just grief+beast alone, you have enough damage/AR to kill any caster, and you can't hit paladins without angelics on, even with the 3/20/20's. So if I were to stack gg charms on a char, it would be a bunch of 20/5's, maybe some 20/11's in the mix.


gotta disagree :P maybe its coz i play ladder and theres not many good sorc. but 3/20/20's are far better in general, you can always switch a few charms in the 1/30 duels that u need them
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