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I spend more time writing guides and theory crafting than actually dueling.
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because empirical research isn't based on statistics or game mechanics applications, its based on real experience in duels.

thus, your experience with your 30 page trapper guide is completely irrelevant, because you're bad and basically have no experience dueling anyone with skill, as evidenced by your "i beat 95% of bnet but got played like fuck by Faun" statement


empirical is based on EXPERIENCE. well, from in-game experience i can tell you that it's about 5% efrw and that it's hardly noticeable, and that this build does a lot more teleporting than running anyway (what with 102 fcr and all).

and i don't see how beating faun in 3 out of 4 duels is "getting played like fuck". I'll admit he's probably better than me (since he wasn't using any sorb gear) but that doesn't mean i can't beat plenty of other people.
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empirical is based on EXPERIENCE.  well, from in-game experience i can tell you that it's about 5% efrw and that it's hardly noticeable, and that this build does a lot more teleporting than running anyway (what with 102 fcr and all).

and i don't see how beating faun in 3 out of 4 duels is "getting played like fuck".  I'll admit he's probably better than me (since he wasn't using any sorb gear) but that doesn't mean i can't beat plenty of other people.


because faun is horrible at bvc...

lol hi bug

hes worse at bvc than like 95% of bnet, thus completely invalidating your statement regarding your supposed prowess.

102fcr sins use plenty of walking, therein lies even further evidence of your inexperience with trappers and skilled players.
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because faun is horrible at bvc...

lol hi bug

hes worse at bvc than like 95% of bnet, thus completely invalidating your statement regarding your supposed prowess.

102fcr sins use plenty of walking, therein lies even further evidence of your inexperience with trappers and skilled players.


lol, well i'm not sure which bnet YOU'RE talking about, but the bnet I know is comprised of about 75% of people who just put together whatever crap gear they can get on their own and with in-game trades, make their build based on whatever's lying around or whatever that guy in the chat channel told them, and duel in nothing but pubs. another 20% has at least some semblance of build, but they still never get very good. the remaining 5% includes me, seedless, and probably most of the other people talking in this thread.

I've dueled a fair number of bvcs and I can tell you that faun and marvel are the two best ones I've dueled, nearly everyone else went down fairly easily.

walking is fine in some duels, but as I've said the difference is quite small, especially with BoS. with BoS it's like 3% or something.
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lol, well i'm not sure which bnet YOU'RE talking about, but the bnet I know is comprised of about 75% of people who just put together whatever crap gear they can get on their own and with in-game trades, make their build based on whatever's lying around or whatever that guy in the chat channel told them, and duel in nothing but pubs.  another 20% has at least some semblance of build, but they still never get very good.  the remaining 5% includes me, seedless, and probably most of the other people talking in this thread.

I've dueled a fair number of bvcs and I can tell you that faun and marvel are the two best ones I've dueled, nearly everyone else went down fairly easily.

walking is fine in some duels, but as I've said the difference is quite small, especially with BoS.  with BoS it's like 3% or something.


if you think faun is one of the best bvcs you've ever dueled, you honestly have no objective right to state what is good and what is bad.
its painfully obvious that you have little to no experience with actual skilled duelers, which is the ultimate handicap to your woeful guide.
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if you think faun is one of the best bvcs you've ever dueled, you honestly have no objective right to state what is good and what is bad.
its painfully obvious that you have little to no experience with actual skilled duelers, which is the ultimate handicap to your woeful guide.


it's not my OPINION that faun is one of the better bvcs i've dueled, it's a fact. Now, I'll admit I probably haven't dueled the absolute best people on the realm, because I pretty much duel anyone and everyone, and more often than not that means I'm dueling someone who sucks. If you know any better bvcs, I'd be more than happy to duel them. but since i'm assuming that the people who are actually going to USE this guide are going to be dueling a wide array of people, and not just the top 10, I don't think it actually makes much of difference to them. for my own practice though, sure, if you know anyone who's good at bvc or anything else, by all means have them pm me.
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