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Jan 14 2010 06:59pm
Quote (sylvannos @ Jan 14 2010 07:55pm)
ghost vs. trap is ridiculously uphill for the ghost...

My top-five worst matchups on ghost are something like:

1) BvC
2) Trapper
3) Hybrid
4) V/T
5) BM bone necro


bro id rank difficult duels for ghost like dis

1) bvc
2) good mb bone nec
3) good tele smite or v/t

otha duels are even or in favor of ghost imo
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#2132
Jan 14 2010 07:01pm
Quote (sylvannos @ 15 Jan 2010 01:55)
ghost vs. trap is ridiculously uphill for the ghost...

My top-five worst matchups on ghost are something like:

1) BvC
2) Trapper
3) Hybrid
4) V/T
5) BM bone necro


BvA is the obvious #1, or a BvB with teleport in stash.

Quote (Spitfire87 @ 15 Jan 2010 01:53)
ghost v trap is fairly even
ghost v bvc is not


Duel a good max block Trapper and get back to us.

Quote (drt1245 @ 15 Jan 2010 01:41)
I think that trap vs windy is about a 9. I guess I'd say there's a pretty sharp curve, where a very good windy can beat a quite good trapsin, but a very good trapsin will destroy a very good wind druid.
It's not easy, but it's a pretty damn big advantage.

Zealot vs trap should be trap's advantage, though. Max block or ww away>


These charts are usually done at top level play, assuming equal skill levels (since it was based off the SSBM match-up chart which also does this). I'd agree that a crap sin vs a crap windy is a 9:1 but a top level I'd say 7:3 or maaaybe 8:2 since those are pretty rape numbers already. I don't think you could ever say that the trap vs druid match-up is equally as difficult as trap vs ghost (which is a realistic 9:1).
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#2133
Jan 14 2010 07:01pm
Quote (Spitfire87 @ Jan 14 2010 04:59pm)
bro id rank difficult duels for ghost like dis

1) bvc
2) good mb bone nec
3) good tele smite or v/t

otha duels are even or in favor of ghost imo


in ghost vs. hybrid, the hybrid does everything the ghost does, but with better traps.

Because of the traps, you can't get in a mb fight with them...the traps will just kill you.

Trappers will just def whore.

And smite is never a problem. V/t is a whole different story.

And don't call me bro.
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#2134
Jan 14 2010 07:02pm
Quote (Tails chao @ Jan 14 2010 08:01pm)
BvA is the obvious #1, or a BvB with teleport in stash.



Duel a good max block Trapper and get back to us.



These charts are usually done at top level play, assuming equal skill levels (since it was based off the SSBM match-up chart which also does this). I'd agree that a crap sin vs a crap windy is a 9:1 but a top level I'd say 7:3 or maaaybe 8:2 since those are pretty rape numbers already. I don't think you could ever say that the trap vs druid match-up is equally as difficult as trap vs ghost (which is a realistic 9:1).


I'd much rather have a ghost than a wind druid for dueling against a trapsin.

Quote (sylvannos @ Jan 14 2010 08:01pm)
in ghost vs. hybrid, the hybrid does everything the ghost does, but with better traps.

Because of the traps, you can't get in a mb fight with them...the traps will just kill you.

Trappers will just def whore.

And smite is never a problem. V/t is a whole different story.

And don't call me bro.


Good trappers don't defwhore, bro

This post was edited by drt1245 on Jan 14 2010 07:02pm
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Jan 14 2010 07:03pm
Quote (drt1245 @ 15 Jan 2010 02:02)
I'd much rather have a ghost than a wind druid for dueling against a trapsin.



Good trappers don't defwhore, bro


I mean the difference between Ghost vs Druid and Trap vs Druid, they're clearly not equally as difficult.

This post was edited by Tails chao on Jan 14 2010 07:04pm
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#2136
Jan 14 2010 07:04pm
Quote (drt1245 @ Jan 14 2010 05:02pm)
Good trappers don't defwhore, bro


iC wat u did there....
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#2137
Jan 14 2010 07:06pm
Quote (sylvannos @ Jan 14 2010 08:01pm)
in ghost vs. hybrid, the hybrid does everything the ghost does, but with better traps.

Because of the traps, you can't get in a mb fight with them...the traps will just kill you.

Trappers will just def whore.

And smite is never a problem. V/t is a whole different story.

And don't call me bro.


bro a good telesmite can be an issue but ive neva lost a ft5 to one neways im just lookin to make list longa for u

and bro i dunno about ur realms but some realm allow sin with lvl 1 trap aka ghost use a wisp or sumthin so dat gives ghost the edge on hybrid
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#2138
Jan 14 2010 07:07pm
Quote (Spitfire87 @ Jan 14 2010 05:06pm)
bro a good telesmite can be an issue but ive neva lost a ft5 to one neways im just lookin to make list longa for u

and bro i dunno about ur realms but some realm allow sin with lvl 1 trap aka ghost use a wisp or sumthin so dat gives ghost the edge on hybrid


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8

I'm going to rape you.

This post was edited by sylvannos on Jan 14 2010 07:08pm
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#2139
Jan 14 2010 07:09pm
Quote (drt1245 @ 14 Jan 2010 18:41)
I think that trap vs windy is about a 9. I guess I'd say there's a pretty sharp curve, where a very good windy can beat a quite good trapsin, but a very good trapsin will destroy a very good wind druid.
It's not easy, but it's a pretty damn big advantage.

Zealot vs trap should be trap's advantage, though. Max block or ww away>


I'd say its 7.
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#2140
Jan 14 2010 07:11pm
Quote (sylvannos @ Jan 14 2010 08:07pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8

I'm going to rape you.


bro i can tell u upset cuz i just laid u out but whateva bro its just opinoin
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