for example regarding ow: take the required hits to kill an opponent and multiply with chance for ow. that's how often you should expect it to get triggered. there's uncertainty in there, but it's a reasonable number you can work with.

nah because a player can intentionally change his dueling style when open wounds happens. but he can not change his chance to hit intentionally for example. also a player can range you very well and u cannot compare that with "numbers" thats all.
you just can hav an idea about how it can be, for CB you need a simulation also, because dam depends on the life of the player in that moment. so its easyer just experience it imo.


This post was edited by FerGarD on Feb 6 2015 04:44am

Alright, thx alot mate ^^
I think this a good example.

but as I said before. Theorycrafting is one thing, Duelling itself is imo a different case.
as you won't duel front on front like stupids, Optimal stats higher your chances, but they won't win for 100% i guess.
I mean you saw how good the 2v2 setup worked even in 1v1 ^^ and it has (still) terrible stats




You can't include specific things like range in BvB.
I use a Range 2 weapon, while everyone else is using a range 3 wep and I never felt any disadvantage.
Probably because I played alot classic & know my range well. (there it is range 3 vs range 1 btw)
but how people handle Range, Frw, Mana, etc. can't be assumed as average cases.

I think you can only compare Life,AR,Dmg,Def .. and that's it.

IF we assume that EVERY BvB plays with the same tactic, then you can analyse that

there is no exact science to ar def and dmg lol
it's about finding a balance. 21.7 k ar and 33 k def may work great with arreats but terrible with viz
cold dmg ow frw ect. change one and your ar and def may not work as well as it had previously.
-on the other hand here is something I figured out that you may like,
@lvl 99 a 2 barb 29 life hat = a 5 bo hat in regards to the hp you end up with after bo.
so i am more of a circlet fan myself. I have one with 84 stats 59 life, just think 10 stats = 40 life : 2 barb 29 life = 5 bo.
with 37 x 3 20 20 i can spec my barb to have 7500 life easily.

oh ps eth up crow caw if you didnt mention it allready
nice guide too bree i may have to check out the action on your realm some day

This post was edited by Beau on Feb 6 2015 04:59am

he can't change the amount of hits it takes to kill him (+/- 1-2).
what does "range you" mean?
for CB just take the average amount of life to give you an idea of it's value.

hmm well i think it won't matter which helm you use if you just regard the ar in the end^^

thx tho man!
btw ETH UP crow caw is more a FFA item, in AoW this is forbidden because of the high OW

Yay, just wanted to ask/share some idea.

i ve seen some duels around now, and i ve recognized that with narural res skill actived (1pt) the cold dmg( coming from raven or the cold dmg sc - doesnt matter )
lasts only for about 1-2seconds, not more ( without cbf )

what i want to ask - do u guys seem it rather usefull or u dont use it, i dont see any benefit while using it atm....rather using a 3 20 20 sc instead//or another sc ( like 20life 30def )

also it possibly gives a non-effecent frame of being hited ( short fhr animation )...is that why do ppl use it?

please explain ur personal ideas please, if u can and want ofc

Personally, I use 37 x 3 20 20 ^^ Fuck psn, fuck cold dmg. I am raw.

it's for slowing your enemy. it doesn't only reduce FRW amount, freeze also reduces the attackspeed as far as I know. someone might correct me if I'm wrong please.
I don't know how much the reduce is, that's why I can't tell you exact things right now. but I'll try to find it out.
vs Botd it might be useless to reduce the attackspeed tho, as botd is raw 26 ias over the last ww BP with it's 60 ias

This post was edited by Breee on Feb 6 2015 08:15am