Quote (tudey @ 9 May 2011 18:22)

you didnt lose to any sorc on bow though¿

Quote (Jeebus666 @ May 9 2011 08:29pm)

I played vs jespers es sorc and ( even tho im not gr8 bow etc.. ), I dont see how bow has advantage..

As sorc can just chainlock attack you then tele away to replenish mana and keep repeating this till your dead, sure with ow you can wear down sorc - but if sorc has high enough life ( which most good sorcs do ) and about over 20 life rep ( which most good sorcs do ) its pretty damm hard

Quote (maximus_le_roi @ May 10 2011 02:09pm)

^^

Idd, ow counter es sorcs.
Once again I can't see a non block sorcs win except in defwhore situation, and apparently it's allowed to rep full mana @ hld -.-
In that case es sorc > any chars...

Quote (maximus_le_roi @ 9 May 2011 22:26)

I'm not in hld scene, I had access to a budget blizz sorc called "Sleepy" tho ( char that belong to ov clan if you know it ).

I play mld tho. @ mld every sorcs have mb and fb vs bow result in 55:45~ in favor of fb. with no block it'd be 0:100 in favor of bow wich lead me to think it would be the same @ hld for 2 reasons : 1) there is no fundamental differences in this mach up between mld & hld ( meaning that both parts will almost play the same ) 2) wsg/90 fire/mana pots are allowed in hld scene, unlike mld ( no wsg/85 fire res max/no mana pots), wich play in favor of zon.
That was the " theorycraft" part.
Now I played hld in private pvp realms and never had pb vs non block sorcs as zon, when I'm a bad zon player.
So even tho I know the reputation of jesper ( as best bow player in realm etc ) I highly doubt any non block sorc would be > to bow ama.

Quote (maximus_le_roi @ 10 May 2011 16:09)

^^

Idd, ow counter es sorcs.
Once again I can't see a non block sorcs win except in defwhore situation, and apparently it's allowed to rep full mana @ hld -.-
In that case es sorc > any chars...

Quote (Tails chao @ 9 May 2011 22:31)

player skill>

Quote (jesper @ May 9 2011 04:57pm)

nope

bring me a bow i use nb sorc than and i promise ill win

Quote (maximus_le_roi @ May 10 2011 02:09pm)

^^

Idd, ow counter es sorcs.
Once again I can't see a non block sorcs win except in defwhore situation, and apparently it's allowed to rep full mana @ hld -.-
In that case es sorc > any chars...

Quote (tudey @ May 10 2011 03:06pm)

the difference is that mld sorcs have shit es and take much more damage to life from hits. however hld sorcs dont lose nearly any life as long as they have mana left

Quote (lifo2 @ May 10 2011 03:06pm)

With a natures peace (11 pdr) and the mdr from before won't kill her when 1 life ^__^

7x es no tk no dr mdr pdr =/= 95 es 20 tk huge mana (also means regen) 45 dr some mdr/pdr

Quote (Jeebus666 @ May 10 2011 03:29pm)

What do you mean by apparently its allowed to rep to full mana? With 1 point warmth and like +25 fire skills, it doesnt really take a long time tbh.

i.e. With 5k mana and lvl 20 warmth i think its 33.5 seconds to get to full so i dont really see how you can prevent this...

edit: esp  in sorc vs bow, when bow has no way of chasing the sorc down while their repping, i.e. i think vs me jesper was on facebook during the duel xD

Quote (jesper @ 9 May 2011 18:57)

nope

bring me a bow i use nb sorc than and i promise ill win

Quote (maximus_le_roi @ May 10 2011 03:36pm)

How about ow ?

is nature peace even allowed ?



well dunno about you but I find that sorc regening during 30 sec is pretty much lame