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#211
Jul 16 2009 08:02am
Quote (Pari @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 09:58am)
sure i've seen it
but that does not take away that your standard setup is 0% fcr and 10% fhr and horrible

what you gonna do when you 2v2 vs something like nec+barb?


and give me at least 1 reason why i should give a guide


1)because u are acting like you can come up with something better. when u convince someone something is wrong, normally people tell them why and defend their points. otherwise,it looks like they are just flamming for no reason
2)in a 2v2 i would never use a vt because vts arent really made for 2v2 dueling.... the only good teams for 2v2 is sin+nec, nec+barb, sin+druid,etc... u get the picture.
3) and my standard setup is the commonly used one in vt vs vt as well. when i pub, i use the exile setup. but in 1v1 gm, you can already synch well. telesmite is only needed in limited setups (which is why i have that one too)
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#212
Jul 16 2009 08:04am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 15:01)
you say his standard setup/guide is horrible.. easiest way to prove it.. show us a better one, aka make a better one..

when someone says 2+2 = 5, it's better to say that 2+2 = 4, rather than yelling all the way that he is wrong.. same logic..


no when someone claims 2+2 = 5 you call him a retard and flame him more after not showing the right answer

bui has no flexibility at all which makes this build very bad
now figure out yourself how to get more flexibility, fcr and fhr in your main gear

http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp
here for some items
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#213
Jul 16 2009 08:07am
Quote (Pari @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 10:04am)
no when someone claims 2+2 = 5 you call him a retard and flame him more after not showing the right answer

bui has no flexibility at all which makes this build very bad
now figure out yourself how to get more flexibility, fcr and fhr in your main gear

http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp
here for some items


um, i included 3 setups for different situations.... if u dont feel one is working, then all you have to do is use the one that would work better. purely common sense. my build works grand in 1v1, and i love it in team dueling and pubbing as well. btw, you still dodged offering a better setup. this is the 7th dodge

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Standard Setup/VT vs. VT Setup
• Helm - Shako (Ber)
• Armor - Mage plate Enigma
• Amulet – Armageddon Slippers
• Boots – Bitter Brogues or Waterwalks (If you have Max Res)
• Rings – 2x BK Rings (Swap on Res Rings as needed)
• Gloves – 20%IAS/10% CB/15STR/15DEX/20Life/30Light Resist Gloves
• Belt - Verdungo's Hearty Cord
• Weapon – Grief PB
• Shield – Upgraded Herald Of Zakarum (Ber)

75% FCR/86%FHR Tele-Smite Setup
• Helm - CoA (Ber/Ber)
• Armor - Mage plate Enigma
• Amulet – Armageddon Slippers
• Boots – Bitter Brogues or Waterwalks or Treks
• Rings – 2x 10fcr/120AR/20Strength/40 life/90 mana/15 res all Rings
• Gloves – 20%IAS/10% CB/15STR/15DEX/20Life/30Light Resist Gloves
• Belt - Arachnid’s Mesh
• Weapon – Grief PB or Griefz (Depends on Match Up)
• Shield – Sacred Targe “Spirit”

Exile (Life tap) Setup
• Helm - CoA (Ber/Ber)
• Armor - Mage plate Enigma
• Amulet – Armageddon Slippers
• Boots – Bitter Brogues
• Rings – 1x Raven Frost + 1x BK Rings (or 1x 15DEX FCR ring if needed for Max Block)
• Gloves – 20%IAS/10% CB/15STR/15DEX/20Life/30Light Resist Gloves
• Belt - Verdungo's Hearty Cord
• Weapon – Grief PB or Griefz (Depends on Match Up)
• Shield – Sacred Targe “Exile”
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#214
Jul 16 2009 08:08am
Quote (Pari @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 10:04am)
no when someone claims 2+2 = 5 you call him a retard and flame him more after not showing the right answer

bui has no flexibility at all which makes this build very bad
now figure out yourself how to get more flexibility, fcr and fhr in your main gear

http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp
here for some items


you are either blind or didn't read it fully.. flexibility doesn't mean having all setups in the SAME build.. flexibility means the ability to change gear to meet the different bps, which he clearly states.. and instead of dodging non-stop, write out a better guide, if you think you know better.. otherwise just lay off, coz your comments don't make sense anymore, now that you are not willing to back them up..
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#215
Jul 16 2009 08:08am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 15:02)
1)because u are acting like you can come up with something better. when u convince someone something is wrong, normally people tell them why and defend their points. otherwise,it looks like they are just flamming for no reason
2)in a 2v2 i would never use a vt because vts arent really made for 2v2 dueling.... the only good teams for 2v2 is sin+nec, nec+barb, sin+druid,etc... u get the picture.
3) and my standard setup is the commonly used one in vt vs vt as well. when i pub, i use the exile setup. but in 1v1 gm, you can already synch well. telesmite is only needed in limited setups (which is why i have that one too)


1) i already told multiple times why this is horrible (expect for v/t vs v/t, great guide for mirrormatch though!)
2) you just say v/ts are bad in 2v2 because your char sucks for it and you lack experience in team duels
3) telesmite is used in all matches expect v/t vs v/t probably / stop talking about syncing well while you don't even have vigor skilled
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#216
Jul 16 2009 08:11am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 15:08)
you are either blind or didn't read it fully.. flexibility doesn't mean having all setups in the SAME build.. flexibility means the ability to change gear to meet the different bps, which he clearly states.. and instead of dodging non-stop, write out a better guide, if you think you know better.. otherwise just lay off, coz your comments don't make sense anymore, now that you are not willing to back them up..


all his setups are limited to dueling 1 char at the same time

besides that, he probably uses 0 fcr and 10 fhr vs an hybrid sin as well
or he doesn't have max block while maintaining his telesmite setup

so what's it gonna be? 0 fcr 10 fhr vs an assassin or not having maxblock vs a hybrid?
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#217
Jul 16 2009 08:12am
Quote (Pari @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 10:08am)
1) i already told multiple times why this is horrible (expect for v/t vs v/t, great guide for mirrormatch though!)
2) you just say v/ts are bad in 2v2 because your char sucks for it and you lack experience in team duels
3) telesmite is used in all matches expect v/t vs v/t probably / stop talking about syncing well while you don't even have vigor skilled


show us how to make a godly 2v2 VT.. otherwise, stfu..

Quote (Pari @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 10:11am)
all his setups are limited to dueling 1 char at the same time

besides that, he probably uses 0 fcr and 10 fhr vs an hybrid sin as well
or he doesn't have max block while maintaining his telesmite setup

so what's it gonna be? 0 fcr 10 fhr vs an assassin or not having maxblock vs a hybrid?


have you seen him dueling a hybrid sin? if not, keep those comments to yourself.. no retard would use 10 fhr against any sin..

This post was edited by ashwinthegrim on Jul 16 2009 08:13am
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#218
Jul 16 2009 08:12am
Quote (Pari @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 10:08am)
1) i already told multiple times why this is horrible (expect for v/t vs v/t, great guide for mirrormatch though!)
2) you just say v/ts are bad in 2v2 because your char sucks for it and you lack experience in team duels
3) telesmite is used in all matches expect v/t vs v/t probably / stop talking about syncing well while you don't even have vigor skilled


i have 3 setups, for diff situations: (they ALL have max block)
mirror match = standard
hdins = standard
barbs = standard
zons = standard
necs = fcr
sorcs = fcr
sins = standard/fcr (depends)
druid = fcr (maybe a little less fcr and get 50% dr)
pubbing = exile

u dont need vigor to synch. charge alone work fine. and i dare u, to challenge a good barb/nec or sin/nec team on your vt/xx team. i guarantee you wont win.

vts are more 1v1 and 4v4 duelers (they do great when someone else is dueling and they can just run in and smitesmitesmite dead) but when they are pressured 2v1, they cant do much

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 16 2009 08:13am
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#219
Jul 16 2009 08:14am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 15:12)
show us how to make a godly 2v2 VT.. otherwise, stfu..


why????? why?????
i don't need to show a better guide to prove i'm right

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#220
Jul 16 2009 08:14am
Quote (Pari @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 10:14am)
why????? why?????
i don't need to show a better guide to prove i'm right


um thats like saying, "im pari i can shoot fireballs and laser beams outta my eyes irl, but i cant show you"

no one is gonna believe you if you dont cough up the facts
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