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Jul 10 2009 09:17am
Quote (Dumpling @ Fri, Jul 10 2009, 10:57am)
yep, i included venom as well. i assumed you would be able to get +3 venom on each gclaw, which biases the result more to your liking. the effect of 4x 3/20/20s will be pretty minuscule - i don't think it would even show up if i kept rounding at the tenth's place.

10+% damage is absolutely huge when you get to end-game tweaking (as we're doing here). i'm sure that if the damage change actually showed up on your char screen (15% would boost you to over 5k damage), you'd be quick to switch.

the numbers were just for moe anyway. i wasn't expecting you to change gear at this point.


well i mean ofc i havent tried highlords on my east hybrid sin because i'd have to put in str/dex and stuff, but i have on d2pk. and its nice and all, but i really like my d2pk build (which uses stuff similar to shide etc...) more anyways

in the end on my d2pk hybrid: i got 4.8kww/10ktraps/65fcr/5.1klife/13kar/39life rep/1000+mana/61% block, etc....

and while highlords does add alot of ww damage, it lacks everything else. i dont like the trade off all that much :/

although on my ghost, since i dont use dancers on her, i was able to use highlords (i use it vs necs and sin v sin) and i liked it more than shide in some situations

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is there a high dmg difference between runic and gt's ??

ias are the same right?
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is there a high dmg difference between runic and gt's ??

ias are the same right?


base weapon speed is the same.
damage difference for any build that wants to whirl for damage is very significant.
some realm sins like whirling to drain with ow/venom, thats different. if you're triwhirling on opponents and using a hybrid like this guide suggests you should have higher base damage claws not gt.
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Quote (Ziecheik @ Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 18:45)
there aren't many good necs on east either. but when you meet one you really see the difficulties with this matchup for a hybridsin. but ya true enough, for most players its not even an issue because they will never run into such opponents.


The ones that are good defwhores can be annoying.

Nice guide, although I still think you should mention Maras and Highlords as amulet options. I seriously can't see how you can pass up Highlords on a WWsin focusing on physical damage.
That and Claw > Talon...by a long shot.
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Quote (young2093 @ Fri, Jul 10 2009, 06:54pm)
The ones that are good defwhores can be annoying.

Nice guide, although I still think you should mention Maras and Highlords as amulet options. I seriously can't see how you can pass up Highlords on a WWsin focusing on physical damage.
That and Claw > Talon...by a long shot.


yea i agree dclaw is better than talon. i was wrong i admit it, i guess i had a bad day one time with dclaw and talon seemed to work better that day for some reason so from that day on i just figured talon is better. but i've tried it again and dclaw is much better

but eh. i dont really wanna mention a poor man's guide. if they really are too poor to craft a 2sin/10-20fcr ammy then they should have the common sense to use maras or highlords i mean its not rocket science

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Quote (Dumpling @ Fri, 10 Jul 2009, 08:57)
yep, i included venom as well. i assumed you would be able to get +3 venom on each gclaw, which biases the result more to your liking. the effect of 4x 3/20/20s will be pretty minuscule - i don't think it would even show up if i kept rounding at the tenth's place.

10+% damage is absolutely huge when you get to end-game tweaking (as we're doing here). i'm sure that if the damage change actually showed up on your char screen (15% would boost you to over 5k damage), you'd be quick to switch.

the numbers were just for moe anyway.i wasn't expecting you to change gear at this point.


Agreed somewhat, but this is an almost entirely different setup compared to the first one we trolled.

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yea i agree dclaw is better than talon. i was wrong, i guess i had a bad day one time with dclaw and talon seemed to work better that day for some reason. but i've tried it again and dclaw is much better

but eh. i dont really wanna mention a poor man's guide. if they really are too poor to craft a 2sin/20ammy then they should have the common sense to use maras or highlords i mean its not rocket science


I r teh l8zy, someone compare the effects of Mara's + 2 BO and SHide's +life.
And I'd hardly consider Highlords a poor man's option.

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Quote (young2093 @ Fri, Jul 10 2009, 06:57pm)
Agreed somewhat, but this is an almost entirely different setup compared to the first one we trolled.

I r teh l8zy, someone compare the effects of Mara's + 2 BO and SHide's +life.
And I'd hardly consider Highlords a poor man's option.


yea it is different, i've fixed it up a lot.

and eh i've tired maras vs shide before cuz several of my friends cant get their hands on shide. its not all that different with maras, but if u noticed i didnt mention any setups for a poor man's guide so why start with ammies right?

as for highlords, i've already explained my reasoning to why i dont like it as much. if u like it then you can use it on your sin. but imo u lose way too much just to gain that 14% extra damage.
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