1. k the only thing you got me here is the 30% DR, i did not play for awhile i don't remember the exact numbers.
2. you can kill GOOD hdins with max resist, massive defense and max block? any good hdins desyncing will mess you up for your lack of trap damage
3. i "tried" meaning i tested out the amount of AR on melee classes and i also tried FOOLS claw + visionary helm, they don't do nearly as much as simply having trap GCS
4. barbs are hard, who are you dueling? pub? 8k trap dmg and a mini barb WW how are you going to kill a good bvc? explain.

im asking legit questions, not only did you not answer it being the originator of this guide, you direct shit back at me still without answering questions.
stop doing his job for him Tail Chaos.

care to sin v sin? i can meet u up on d2pk or something... i'll show u why 65fcr is better...



1) yea i did catch u good on the 30dr...
2) i do not lose to ANY hdin.... losing to a din on a sin is a shame. 8k and 12k isnt THAT much of a difference.... add in the abilityo predict their synch movements nad catching them with ww and mb spam = dead hdin
3) because you are the kind of dueler that sits behidn traps and i am the kind that can chainlock and DOD ww..... different styles for different levels of skill
4) i do not lose to ANY barb on d2pk with my sin (and it keep it real - especially with those barbs on there that have eth/indus griefzs etc) - if u care to prove me wrong, find me a barb that can beat me on d2pk when i play hybrid sin

and if tails chaos answered correctly already why would i need to repeat his answers again... i just agreed with him - thus meaning that i would have given the same answers....

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jan 13 2010 11:40pm

im sorry if you took offense to anything ive said so far. but let me reword my questions.

you choose to go full shadow GC lifers to go up against barbs instead of taking in 5k trap damage.
1. how do you duel a barb? if you trade WWs with a good barb they will most likely overpower you in life+ar+damage+defense.
2. how do you duel a hdin? defensive right? traps + mb and ww very minimally to avoid getting hit by hammers right?

here's what i do:
1. i tele a lot around a barb and just trap him, rarely getting close enough to ww because even with 60+ claw block they will hit and hit hard.
2. i do similar for hdin because when they desync its pretty hard to hit with WW, i rely almost purely on traps for them.

the point im making is maybe all those passive +skills from shadow gcs may not be as viable when it comes to dueling hard hitting melees, where as extra trap damage will do the job.

this should be stickied!

it is...

i have sin on west nl and east lad
bro i dun wat u conser THAT much difference but let me break it down for u ppl dat dunno how to do math
avg dmg to tgod hdin with 8k traps = 65
avg dmg to tgod hdin with 12k traps = 115

bro thats 77% MORE DAMAGE pretty huge man so i dunno wat kinda math ur usin bro

but neways i agree that hdin shuldnt be problem for hybrid sin

yea i play d2pk and east nonladder... thats why i proposed we meet up on a realm where both of us can play - aka d2pk



1) when i duel barbs i set traps around myself and trick them into trying to get me... if they dont i just chase them around while keeping at least 2-3 traps on me at all times incase they try to stomp. then as soon as they tele , i move out of the way, and throw a few mbs to start locking them... this forces them to wsg out ww out of the way... if they wsg i stomp and do a quick ww and run out. if they ww out i keep a lock and dont let them.... i repeat and improvise depending on the situation but thats basically my tactic.... then once they are around 50-60% life left, i set traps in a line and just out ww them
2) vs a hdin im good at predicting movement so i can see where they will go and ww along their path... i also set traps in a formation so if they stomp me all i gotta do is side step and they get hit by all 4-5 traps and mb/phammer spam. i use about 70% trap and 30% ww on these guys

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jan 14 2010 12:29am

bui you suck...i dueled you a couple times and you were absolute shit on a sin...dno why you post so much

This post was edited by makaveli7 on Jan 14 2010 12:43am

once an immature kid/scammer always one right? some people change.... others dont

after fully reading this the only issue i find is that all of your gear would cost super amounts of fg... which isn't practical for the average player. But other than that I hope to duel sometime.