tele+short ww if the barb tries to wsg out of your traps

if the barb doesn't use wsg and just whirls out, just continue locking him with traps and follow him around

ww won't be fast enough to get out, that's why good barbs use wsg aswell, use this as your advantage

ok no offense to fkJSP but from reading half of the shit he said, it was all very pubby and ignorant....

"30%dr is cap" - i mean really? come on now....
"i cant kill HDIN and smiters on a freakin hybrid sin" - these guys are a joke.... the ONLY challenges for a hybrid sin should be another sin or a nec
"i tried angelics on my sin" - angelics = shit.... get a fools claw and u should be fine if you know when to attack
"i cant beat barbs with my 12k trap hybrid sin build" - i can rape barbs with an 8k trap build.... just play like a good trapper and use mindblast/phammer welll.... if u cant take out a barb with almost as much damage as a trapper then you are just poor

@tails chaos
i agree with pretty much most of the things you said

3.3k ww and 5.9k trap dmg
wtf did i do wrong

ww will be brought up in 6 lvls (lvl 86)
and trap dmg idk what i did

This post was edited by Oxbow on Jan 13 2010 08:05pm

lvl 86.
claws.

these will be the primary factors in low LS damage.

if u follow the build exactly.... ur damage should be more than that.... the only thing i can think of is the claws u use are crap

bro i duno y ur hard on him. a barb aint an easy duel, and a barb is a tuff duel for a 8k trap build.
bro ill break it down for u. a 7.5k life barb will tank on average 117 trap hits b4 dyin to ur little lvl 99 example with 8k traps. ur sayin u can rape a good barb when it takes u so many traps hit? it can be done bro but a good barb will not be ez to rape with ur build. it is simple as dat yo

and bro u got a prty nice guide not gonn lie but i think u unda estimate 102 fcr bro, especially in most situation where ppl cant get good 2 socket rare circ. i'd argu that 102 fcr is betta for a majority of matchups. especially wen u dunt recommend the best amulet aka highlords for 65% fcr setup

65 is better overall except vs necros where 102 is nicer....

with 65 u can get more damage and stuff and vs most people u really wont need to chase them THAT much... plus if u use 102, u wont get max dr among other stuff

i personally play 102fcr setup a lot on d2pk for fun, but that only works cuz d2pk has jack'd up items... if u use that on a regular realm it wont be AS effective (altho it can still work)

102 is also nicer for hdin,fire/light sorc,druid,sin and betta for most team play. wat i say is even truer for ghost

most ppl only hav good 1 socket rare circlet, so if u ber tha griffons its the same DR, maybe 1 less cuz fade but its normally same for me since i like highlord on 65fcr. u dunt rly need cham unless ur duelin orb or sumthin nah mean brah.

wit 65 fcr u dont rly get much mo dmg unless ur usin highlords. and u only lose 1 sin skill if u normally use rare amulet. i dunt rly see the advantage of 65 fcr besides 2-3k ar sum life, and ravenfrost sorb.

vs sorcs, i like to have 1 sorb ring aka 1 raven/dwarf/wisp so i cant get 102 anyways.... (this isnt d2pk, its useast and 1 piece of sorb is allowed)
vs hdin u dont need fcr... why would u chase down a hdin... u can play defensive and force them to attack you (otherwise u can kill them with mindblast spam)
vs other sins, i use 1 piece of sorb also... so i dont need 102fcr....

well bro personally with sorc i like to swiftly take them down, and sorb is just overkill but i guess u got ap oint if ur aight with sorb it might be better. i personlly thing sorb should be bm (except raven)

vs hdin 102 fcr mb is always nice, especially with full trap or ghost build. depends on style i guess but i dnt thing benefits of 65 r enuff to lose frame castin but i just like it fast ya no wat i mean. i just dunt think u gain much with 65 fcr especialy if u dunt use highlords

vs other sin i guess wisp is aight if dats gm, but even then i might just like lo griffon/valk better. 102 fcr/48 (or 86 with valk) fhr is pretty godly on any wwbase hybrid or ghost for vs trap