You were off by 1k damage, and that 50k ar is a random thing Giff made up. Nobody ever said it in a thread. I looked around for whoever posted that none sense, but couldn't find anyone who said it. So I guess GIFF thinks its funny or something. I dont get it though...

must be becourse you are retard?

no you always were a bit slow...

Ya when it comes to your insults I gotta admit I don't understand most of em. 50k ar ww sin, wubanging, I don't get any of it lol. But it seems your 4 friends here understand so good work keep em coming

http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=637238&view=findpost&p=30734916
need more spoon-feeding?

If you're seriously that stupid, I guess I'll have to point you in the right direction..

"Double the attack rating than barb"

now think

You guys are terrible at trash talking. Only Giff is marginally funny, the rest of you should stick to lying about your non existant characters, because flaming isn't working for you. I'll spell it out for you guys though, since none of you seem to have a WW sin or a Smiter i'll help you out. WW sins are superior to WW barbs when it comes to fighting against smiters for several reasons:

1) Stun locks. By far the single biggest reason why fighting smiters is made easier for sins. If you know how to stun lock effectively, the smiter can barely attack.

2) Weapon block. about 60% basically means 60% more survivability. Barbs don't have even close to 60% more life then WW sins, so overall WW sins can tank smiters way better then ww barbs ever can.

3) More attack rating and more open wounds by ONLY wearing a fools claw and gore riders. Both do nothing but improve the build. Barbs need to give up so much to come close to the attack rating and open wounds that a Sin can get with total ease. Barbs need angelics, draculs and gore riders to get it. This means, no highlords ammy, no Fcr at all, no mana at all for WW'ing, it's a big sacrifice to even come close to a sins stats. Plus, the sin can then just put on angelics and again not lose much of anything and slaughter a barbs attack rating.

4) Fade. It makes life tap disappear 4 times faster. You just WW away till it's gone.

5) Starting with shadow master gives you a HUGE advantage. All you gotta do is lay traps, Shadow will take care of the initial mind blast. After that she dies in 1 hit and you won't be re-casting her because of life tap danger.

6) Many types of damage. Physical, Venom, Open wounds, and maybe lightning if you're a hybrid. Depending on what type of sin you use, the physical damage can actually be quite significant. Of course pre-buffed venom is huge, and open wounds is high aswell, and hybrids can achieve some nice light sentry damage. Pally's can't negate it all.

7) A ranged attack. Having blade fury assures that the smiter can't just stand and tele smite.

8) Mind blast as an offensive skill. Of course its a stun lock skill, but it can be used offensively aswell since the damage isn't too bad on it if you mash it down on someone. Sometimes you can chip away quite a bit of their life in a duel with just annoying repetative mind blasting and trapping, very funny stuff.

9) Armor switches if needed. Sins can either wear enigma as usual for the mobility. Or if the smiter isn't wearing any poison negating items, they can wear bramble and just overpower the smiter. If the smiter is wearing poison negating items, WW sins can still throw on fortitude and boost up physical damage even more (i'll screenshot my sin with fortitude on, you'll be surprised at the damage )

10) Cloak of shadows. Knocks off about 3k defense from the smiter and adds to the sins defense lol. Not much, but every little bit counts hehe

11) Blade shield. Gives an additional chance to proc venom and open wounds if a smiter was dumb enough to try tele smite vs a WW sin.


Overall, Barbs just can't compare to WW sins when dealing with smiters. Usually barbs vs smiters is a pretty close duel. If the smiter is prepared and good, he should win. If he isn't, the barb will overpower him. But man, smiters vs WW sins come on... You'd have to be pretty bad at playing sins to give up such an advantage and actually lose consistantly. You have the advantage, use it lol

This post was edited by Trae8 on Jan 23 2007 05:01pm

1) Stun-locking is almost useless vs good smiters. Good luck locking desynced tele smiters btw.

2) Apart from the fact that barbs have a range of 3 instead of 2.

3) Just a question, you are aware of the fact that fools only applies to the fools itself ey?

4) Nice pro indeed.

5) I don't see the HUGE advantage here. Except for a free re-heal for the smiter.

6) How exactly do you reach your 'significant physical damage'? Open wounds is just as high on a barb.

7) Blade fury is slow as hell. Any competent smiter will charge/smite your ass once he sees the animation going.

8) I agree.

9) When the smiter is using poison negating stuff a bramble won't make much of a difference in your favor. You'll be an immobile slow assed turtle.

10) 3K defense is fucking irrelevant. But i agree, defense vs smite is indeed incredibly useful... (a meager amount of defense is added anyway)

11) Open Wounds does not work with blade shield. The damage blade shield adds is garbage.

You never ever question yourself, do you? You just duel crap smiters compared to those on our realm. Answer for once; how many smiters have you duelled that GIFF mentioned?

PS; You just couldn't drop it, could you? frustrated much?

I knew you'd skim and misquote, next?

Never seen a smiter yet with 60k defense wearing enigma, so I guess i'll have to say none But if you mean tele smiters that use slow gear, i've dueled my share. It's not wise to tele smite a good WW sin though unless you want to eat WW's and be easy stun locked. But hey, do what you do