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Sep 19 2010 08:32am
Quote (Steffer @ Sep 19 2010 02:31pm)
where u play?

i give it a try as hammer if eu or eud2pk


no thx .. dont like dueling hammers :p
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Sep 19 2010 08:32am
Quote (hue_two @ Sep 19 2010 02:28pm)
im actually talking from a barbs perspective :p


oh okay. cool

just to add if you get really good with a barb you can blindspot them very easily and smash them with zerk.
Its rediculous. Lots of hdins dont expect that.
They think you got no skill so they just randomly sit in their fields.

Good hdins will make use of smite. But no matter they are still weak

end of story kids I have to go 4 now
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Sep 19 2010 08:32am
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no good hammer desynchs vs barb

leap and zerk? leap is useless, all you can do with it is to annoy them. if you try to leap tele ww you'll just get hit by hammers. and if you try to blindspot zerk they'll just jump on you again or just smite you into hammers


he dont think that far xD
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Sep 19 2010 08:36am
Quote (Steffer @ Sep 19 2010 02:32pm)
he dont think that far xD


.....Sigh...

Have a watch of some youtube vids of proper bvc like smash taking on pro hdins.
And he uses widow lol.

Well I pretty much perfected the techinique and added my own style. Since I have played vs best hammers.
And anyhow, you kids should stop pubing cause thats just sad
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Sep 19 2010 08:37am
Quote (mizure @ Sep 19 2010 03:36pm)
.....Sigh...

Have a watch of some youtube vids of proper bvc like smash taking on pro hdins.
And he uses widow lol.

Well I pretty much perfected the techinique and added my own style. Since I have played vs best hammers.
And anyhow, you kids should stop pubing cause thats just sad


u obviously have just played shithammers if u think u gonna win a good one ^^
and no smash wouldnt win a good hammer either

This post was edited by Steffer on Sep 19 2010 08:38am
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Sep 19 2010 08:41am
Quote (Tails chao @ Sep 19 2010 07:37am)
The difference between arreat/guilli isn't that huge anyway, just use what you think looks better


I'm afraid to say theres some truth to that.
As in, against say a pure hammerdin they might do the same thing almost to the dot.


The *real* advantage is that arreats gives you more versatility against multiple opponents. If you were "GM" dueling a hammerdin, and his buddy fireballer stepped in, he might roast you.
If you were dueling a "pure hammerdin", and he turned out to be a libby or a mage, you'd definitely want to wear arreats instead of guillaimes (ok coa would be better)


They both do basically the exact same thing when you weigh damage vs life, its just other mods that might matter more in other duels that arreats gains from in extra- things like resists, leap, defense, etc
so you can wear guillaimes or arreats and get the exact same mods to that duel, but arreats *also* gives you mods that help in other duels

Guillaimes gives you +100 in column A, +99 in column B, +0 in columns C, D, & E
Arreats gives you +99 in column A, +100 in column B, +20 in columns C, D, & E

In a strictly utilitarian approach, arreats is virtually always the better helm.
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Sep 19 2010 08:42am
Quote (Steffer @ Sep 19 2010 02:37pm)
u obviously have just played shithammers if u think u gonna win a good one ^^
and no smash wouldnt win a good hammer either


He plays retartedly and almost like half drunk.
If you play perfectly you wont get hit.

The only thing that will kill a bvc is a pro dysyncher and I am talking about the one who can
glitch it so he can be seen. Not pub wanabe.

And still it will take absolutely perfect aiming to box him.

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Sep 19 2010 08:43am
Quote (mizure @ Sep 19 2010 02:36pm)
.....Sigh...

Have a watch of some youtube vids of proper bvc like smash taking on pro hdins.
And he uses widow lol.

Well I pretty much perfected the techinique and added my own style. Since I have played vs best hammers.
And anyhow, you kids should stop pubing cause thats just sad


i just googled barb vs hammer smash..and using widow vs decent hammer is suicide^^
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He plays retartedly and almost like half drunk.
If you play perfectly you wont get hit.

The only thing that will kill a bvc is a pro dysyncher and I am talking about the one who can
glitch it so he can be seen. Not pub wanabe.

And still it will take absolutely perfect aiming to box him.


i understand why u think this when the hammers u guys play against are like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duQ1BvTUJSs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWIV6kicu-8&NR=1
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Sep 19 2010 08:46am
Quote (tudey @ Sep 19 2010 08:31am)
no good hammer desynchs vs barb

leap and zerk? leap is useless, all you can do with it is to annoy them. if you try to leap tele ww you'll just get hit by hammers. and if you try to blindspot zerk they'll just jump on you again or just smite you into hammers


yy

leap is just annoyance, easily ignored or exploited by them. Zerk is like your way of saying I WANT TO DIE RITE NOW. they don't even need to teleport to catch you, just fidget around in *any* direction
all a bvc can do is ww around in appropriate directions and teleport out when the hammer starts boxing him and take attacks of opportunity teleports.
and that will eventually win.
bvc > hammer


but if you want a *real* easy time, just throw your eth lacerators at him whenever hes even the slightest bit defensive, forcing him to teleport on you as your whirlwind
duel goes much faster and much easier ^____^

thought tbh its one duel where I'd actually say put the windowbreaker on switch. and if you're *reallly* lame, use the widowsnapper + lasorater main + beast offhand


my bvc using nothing but life/resist charms has never had any issues with any hammerdonks ~_~
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