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Aug 12 2010 08:25am
Thanks for the reply but I am still confused.

First, I put Grief Pb on the boot side then remove it and re-eq it on glove side then put back my Death CS?
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Aug 12 2010 08:28am
Griefz + Beastz > all setups

with minor exception of Grief + eDeath
which is better for ubers
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Aug 12 2010 09:40am
Quote (Archetypal @ 12 Aug 2010 10:09)
Hello, lovely build.
Can I ask, I have Grief Pb and Death CS and I am kinda' confused with the WSM or things like that, can I ask, should Pb be placed at the glove side or Death? =)

Thanks!


my sources tell me that the glitch only works when the first weapon misses

put the pb on gloves side and cs on boots side, in that order, it will be fine if you just leave them switching games and whatever wont make a difference

you will need 65ias from gear so loh, hl, nossi, and a jewel in your helm
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Aug 12 2010 09:58am
Quote (MajinKaisa @ Aug 12 2010 11:40pm)
my sources tell me that the glitch only works when the first weapon misses

put the pb on gloves side and cs on boots side, in that order, it will be fine if you just leave them switching games and whatever wont make a difference

you will need 65ias from gear so loh, hl, nossi, and a jewel in your helm


So, just put them in that order and leave it will do, right? Wouldn't affect if I hit 'W' for weapon switch and switch back again?
Also, the 65IAS counts like, LoH (20%), HL (20%) and Grief (33%) so in total is 73%, does that count?
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Aug 12 2010 10:27am
Quote (Archetypal @ 12 Aug 2010 11:58)
So, just put them in that order and leave it will do, right? Wouldn't affect if I hit 'W' for weapon switch and switch back again?
Also, the 65IAS counts like, LoH (20%), HL (20%) and Grief (33%) so in total is 73%, does that count?


off weapon ias (oais) is not the same as weapon ias (wias). you need 65 oias
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Aug 12 2010 10:54am
Quote (MajinKaisa @ Aug 12 2010 03:40pm)
my sources tell me that the glitch only works when the first weapon misses

put the pb on gloves side and cs on boots side, in that order, it will be fine if you just leave them switching games and whatever wont make a difference

you will need 65ias from gear so loh, hl, nossi, and a jewel in your helm


can u give link to source cos i dont believe thats true..

pb gloves side and cs boots side has slow start speed, dont like at all

This post was edited by hue_two on Aug 12 2010 10:54am
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Aug 12 2010 11:28am
Very Nice Guide ;DDDDDDDDDD
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Quote (hue_two @ 12 Aug 2010 12:54)
can u give link to source cos i dont believe thats true..

pb gloves side and cs boots side has slow start speed, dont like at all


Quote (Ancalagon @ 25 Jan 2010 16:37)
let's say it like this:

1. Titanseal says it (even came up with a revised excel sheet for the calculation)
2. Amazonbasin says that aka Onderduiker does


http://www.theamazonbasin.com/d2/forums/index.php?showtopic=82221


Quote (Ancalagon @ 26 Jan 2010 08:20)
frenzyspeedbugging does work, when the first weapon aka the grief misses

however that will not be the case


the 65wias is from doing the calculation
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Aug 12 2010 11:51am
Well if you u put grief on boot side (death glove side) and shift attack with frenzy (with no mob near) you attack crazy fast (and ofc the attacks are all missing but you still keep atatck extremely fast).

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Quote (hue_two @ 12 Aug 2010 13:51)
Well if you u put grief on boot side (death glove side) and shift attack with frenzy (with no mob near) you attack crazy fast (and ofc the attacks are all missing but you still keep atatck extremely fast).


true. however I don't have any proof of how much ias you need for 10fpa, 40 appears to do the job, but none of the calculations say so. besides, 2x grief pb is better imo.
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