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Jun 22 2010 06:17am
i havent played d2 for 2 years, only sometimes browse the forums.
i used to play pvp only, but this actually made me want to play pvm again.
i was thinking about using it for hell cs runs, because i like them.

thanks for sharing, seems like a lot of fun really
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Jun 22 2010 07:00am
/btw any thoughts about tweaking this build for running cs specifically?
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Jun 22 2010 07:29am
Quote (moderat @ Jun 22 2010 08:00am)
/btw any thoughts about tweaking this build for running cs specifically?


Lose +2 bo, and throw a phnx shield on switch for redemption and craft yourself some dual leach cb gloves :) (vs using dracs) If you get ias on these you can facet your hat instead of ias'ing.
Speeds up the fight vs Big D.

Other then that, its more a playstyle preference. The guide pretty covers the bases well enough for you.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Jun 22 2010 07:30am
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Jun 22 2010 08:29am
its a crap build does very small damage.. if u want ur kicker to do dmg use stormlash, inv full of light dmg scs, 20/20 jmod, griffon. Much more dmg & can actually kill stuff lol
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/btw any thoughts about tweaking this build for running cs specifically?

Gl with 16 min cs runs with this
Quote (Master_Zappy @ Jun 20 2010 04:38am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC2X-Vj30UA


is this playing for you guys?
Get camtasia and ffdshow video codec pack, use xvid codec for best performance & decent compression. Also its trapper.. so why not get actual trap setup instead of make joke with kick.. Its like those hdin&charge "hybrids"

Also im callin bs on your vid. Cant be p8, maybe you made some mistake. Even a pure trapper with lvl 55 ls doesnt kill that fast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55f9s_thgUQ

This post was edited by yaf on Jun 22 2010 08:46am
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Quote (yaf @ Jun 22 2010 02:29pm)
its a crap build does very small damage.. if u want ur kicker to do dmg use stormlash, inv full of light dmg scs, 20/20 jmod, griffon. Much more dmg & can actually kill stuff lol

Gl with 16 min cs runs with this
Get camtasia and ffdshow video codec pack, use xvid codec for best performance & decent compression. Also its trapper.. so why not get actual trap setup instead of make joke with kick.. Its like those hdin&charge "hybrids"

Also im callin bs on your vid. Cant be p8, maybe you made some mistake. Even a pure trapper with lvl 55 ls doesnt kill that fast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55f9s_thgUQ


dont thihnk u know wht ur talking about..
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Jun 22 2010 09:50am
Quote (yaf @ Jun 22 2010 09:29am)
its a crap build does very small damage.. if u want ur kicker to do dmg use stormlash, inv full of light dmg scs, 20/20 jmod, griffon. Much more dmg & can actually kill stuff lol

Gl with 16 min cs runs with this
Get camtasia and ffdshow video codec pack, use xvid codec for best performance &  decent compression. Also its trapper.. so why not get actual trap setup instead of make joke with kick.. Its like those hdin&charge "hybrids"

Also im callin bs on your vid. Cant be p8, maybe you made some mistake. Even a pure trapper with lvl 55 ls doesnt kill that fast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55f9s_thgUQ


thanks for the info on the vid recoding.


that being said, I was indeed on p8 using all legit items. Your wrong about that. Ive no reason to mis represent this char as its easily provable to anyone who makes the build. and lo, this build has been thoroughly vetted by MANY people who've made this character. your the first to ever claim contrary. On one player (or small games) the kill speed is so fast you can just use kick alone with an occasional ds. This vid killspeed was substantially slower then a kicksin in her own game.


Please dont confuse yourpoor play on a k/t's as a shortcomming of the build. Something many veteran sin players have already told you and as evidenced here
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=45148793&f=87




test for yourself. Exact spec I used.

level 99

Nighwings 5/5
Highlords ammy
Coh
Tgods
20 Ias 10cb leach gloves (crafts)
double up'd goblin toes
Rift
Jmod with 4X 5/5 facets
switch spirit+ 6 bo cta

torch + anni
8 Trap skillers (w/45 life)
8 sc's 20/5's

Infinnity (ca/thresher/GPA ) Might merc (treach+andy's)


110 skill points.

23 in Ma tree
20 dtalon , 1 dflight

6 in the Shadow tree
bos, cos, Warrior and preq's (1 in)


81 in the trap tree (100% fully syngerised ls/ds)
1 fireblast pre req
20 shockweb
20 CB sentry
20 ls
20 DS

110 points.

skill levels
+2 (nw
+1 ammy
+1 battlecommand
+3 sin torch
+1 anni.
+2 coh
8 trap skillers

18 to traps
10 to sin skills

Conviction present -85 + might aura from a level 98 merc

Light sentry
Current Skill Level: 38
10: Lightning Damage: 8-8249

ds
Radius: 15.6 yards (almost the whole screen!)
Lightning Damage: 3-2917

6 kicks on Dtalon
Kick Damage: +208 percent
Attack: +745 percent

275 orb damage + 40% skill = 385 per shard at -110 enemy res (same as a level 19 cold mastery!) ( and none of the monsters in chaos have much for cold res outside the OK) Nearing ~800 damage per shard to many monsters.
(20%nw + 20% shield)

So as you can see, its not giving up really anything to a pure trapper and has great dtalon damage along with all the mods carried on this.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Jun 22 2010 09:53am
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It just cant be true. Even with 14k light sentry trapper didnt kill that fast in my vid. Im pretty sure you made a mistake somewhere.. perhaps those monsters were "triggered" under p1 before switching to p8 or i dunno..

This post was edited by yaf on Jun 22 2010 09:56am
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Quote (yaf @ 22 Jun 2010 15:55)
It just cant be true. Even with 14k light sentry trapper didnt kill that fast in my vid. Im pretty sure you made a mistake somewhere.. perhaps those monsters were "triggered" under p1 before switching to p8 or i dunno..


Death sentry brah
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Jun 22 2010 10:09am
No it cant be. The killing speed is javazon/light sorc class. This is impossible with assas
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Quote (yaf @ Jun 22 2010 04:09pm)
No it cant be. The killing speed is javazon/light sorc class. This is impossible with assas


cold dmg, corpse explosion, light dmg.....
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