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Sep 10 2009 09:57am
i miss the ZvA faith shadow / dungo 2ama 30frw 2s adds (30ias/80ed) build that can also be used to stack up huge res .. and is in avg > matri and 65ias shouldnt be that prob.

Other thing is .. dfl monarchs wit much bers .. simply use storm good jooled^^ ama has enough dex anyway. Defl monarchs with good jwls to add fhr/ throwing dmg liferepl okey .. but for dr ?? Oo storm -req takes 133str - on titanslot you have add 20str - 113 - 113str using wt - 103str - compared to requirements of a gmb and upd titans .. for sure not too much str :)

and your desycn explanation is ..simply .. not correct at all^^ you can easy get desycn from str bug using boots and(or titans frw switch .. more frw may just increase the effekt a bit..

_ life ..just think about what you like .. if you get ~ 700 dmg by random bonespirit .. 2100life needed to survive 3 hits ..what about 2k ? 1.401 or 2099 doenst have (in that case) any effekt.. calculate ur eq . common or high dmg you take vs most opponents ..and think in hits you can take, not in fucking numbers ^^ So you can reach the best life/dmg for your eq and skill :P

Hl 08 - could be deleted from a random guide. 2xjk amulets just nice too see how to use em^^

this are just some points i would mention after looking 3 mins at this :)

but good work. gives an overview.
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Quote (toka34 @ Thu, Sep 10 2009, 03:57pm)
i miss the ZvA faith shadow / dungo 2ama 30frw 2s adds (30ias/80ed) build that can also be used to stack up huge res .. and is in avg > matri and 65ias shouldnt be that prob.

Other thing is .. dfl monarchs wit much bers .. simply use storm good jooled^^ ama has enough dex anyway. Defl monarchs with good jwls to add fhr/ throwing dmg liferepl okey .. but for dr ?? Oo storm -req takes 133str -  on titanslot you have add 20str - 113 - 113str using wt - 103str - compared to requirements of a gmb and upd titans .. for sure not too much str :)

and your desycn explanation is ..simply .. not correct at all^^ you can easy get desycn from str bug using boots and(or titans frw switch .. more frw may just increase the effekt a bit..

_ life ..just think about what you like .. if you get ~ 700 dmg by random bonespirit .. 2100life needed to survive 3 hits ..what about 2k ? 1.401 or 2099 doenst have (in that case) any effekt.. calculate ur eq . common or high dmg you take vs most opponents ..and think in hits you can take, not in fucking numbers ^^ So you can reach the best life/dmg for your eq and skill :P

Hl 08 - could be deleted from a random guide. 2xjk amulets just nice too see how to use em^^

this are just some points i would mention after looking 3 mins at this :)

but good work. gives an overview.


Hmm I think you should look for a little longer than 3 mins since I don't mention using a jmod.

My explanation about desync is correct. You can desync easier if you use wsg but frw is indeed correlated to desync.

You can't arbitrarily denote every attack to be 700. Having more life is always good. There are no certain "breakpoints" per se in life - the more the better.
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with some expierience and knowing dmg/ your eq vs enemies and common dmg of them you can of course calculate how much dmg you take .. if you do that for most chars ..you can see if its usefull to play for example 1.6k life rest dex or .. 2k life rest dex .. sometimes dmg is more usefull than life .. isnt it ? :) (especially in tvt sup teams ) k this requires a bit more expirience at all but for sure possible.
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Quote (toka34 @ Fri, Sep 11 2009, 08:12am)
with some expierience and knowing dmg/ your eq vs enemies and common dmg of them you can of course calculate how much dmg you take .. if you do that for most chars ..you can see if its usefull to play for example 1.6k life rest dex or .. 2k life rest dex .. sometimes dmg is more usefull than life .. isnt it ? :) (especially in tvt sup teams )  k this requires a bit more expirience at all but for sure possible.


No chance. The diversity of damage for attacks (both physical and elemental) is too large to base your character's life on. THe best you can do is build your zon to be able to tank at least 1 hit of everything with normal gear except blizz. Other than that, you have to fiddle with your charms and gear within your stash to make your build better against a certain build.

You can't say 1400 and 2000 life is the same. Especially because most attacks have a range, and because that range is highly dynamic for most characters.

This post was edited by manduki on Sep 11 2009 07:41am
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as a vita zon i have 2243 life 120frw w/ bow out and i do 1250-5283 dmg with my gmb/16060/shako build gives me 25% dr etc <3 this setup and pretty much the only way imo that vita builds work is if you have an inven of shocking/faming scs which i do 20x shocking scs of vita 1-71 light 17-19 life and 17x flaming scs of inertia
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as a vita zon i have 2243 life 120frw w/ bow out and i do 1250-5283 dmg with my gmb/16060/shako build gives me 25% dr etc <3 this setup and pretty much the only way imo that vita builds work is if you have an inven of shocking/faming scs which i do 20x shocking scs of vita 1-71 light 17-19 life and 17x flaming scs of inertia


I actually made a zon using 3/xx/1-xx lite damage small charms. Was a pure glass cannon but was actually successful in zvz.
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It seems nobody in this thread has received the news yet:

According to others, it appears that in 1.10 Small charms with the suffix "of Inertia" no longer drop or spawn as 5% FRW. They now only display 3%. Any small charms with 5% FRW are remnants left over from 1.09 and earlier. Even though these novelty charms still DISPLAY 5% they only apply 3% FRW in the game's calculations. Therefore, each 5% FRW SC you guys are wearing now, whether NL or L, only gives 3% FRW a piece.

Don't know if it's true or not but it sounds likely as I haven't seen any 5% FRW drop in the past few years.
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Quote (eAZaku @ Wed, Sep 23 2009, 06:18am)
It seems nobody in this thread has received the news yet:

According to others, it appears that in 1.10 Small charms with the suffix "of Inertia" no longer drop or spawn as 5% FRW. They now only display 3%. Any small charms with 5% FRW are remnants left over from 1.09 and earlier. Even though these novelty charms still DISPLAY 5% they only apply 3% FRW in the game's calculations. Therefore, each 5% FRW SC you guys are wearing now, whether NL or L, only gives 3% FRW a piece.

Don't know if it's true or not but it sounds likely as I haven't seen any 5% FRW drop in the past few years.


this is very interesting if true. as for life/ dmg calculations, I find that 2k + life and around 6k dmg more or less is best.
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Quote (Amor @ Mon, Oct 5 2009, 05:05pm)
this is very interesting if true. as for life/ dmg calculations, I find that 2k + life and around 6k dmg more or less is best.


Yea its not true.
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