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Jul 17 2008 11:51am
Quote (darcanegel @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 01:14pm)
with 75% vs 105% frw it's a difference of about 5%.  it's hard to tell, period.  there's massive diminshing returns.

its a 13% increase, from 9 yrd/sec to 10.2 yrd/sec.
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Jul 17 2008 11:53am
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Jul 17 2008 12:01pm
Quote (Dumpling @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 05:51pm)
its a 13% increase, from 9 yrd/sec to 10.2 yrd/sec.


what formula do you use, i thought the old 150*frw/(150+frw) still applied

Quote (darcanegel @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 05:39pm)
you seriously fail at math.  it's not NEARLY 23% lol.  mathematically it ought to be around 7%, but in-game testing showed it to be about 5%.  and none of that is from the arreat summit.

you seriously fail at everything including this game blind dork. mathematically it ought to be whatever the formula you're using gives you but you just pull numbers out of your enlarged ass, and PLEASE tell me how you got the 5%-from-in-game-test HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH.

you don't know shit about ww and tried to redeem yourself by blabbering about arreat summit. eat a dick.

everyone who can't see the very significant difference between 75 and 105 frw should visit a fucking optician lol
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Jul 17 2008 12:14pm
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what formula do you use, i thought the old 150*frw/(150+frw) still applied

EffectiveWalkSpeed = 4 * (1 + Skill_FRW / 100 + [Item_FRW * 150 / (Item_FRW + 150)] / 100 + Armor_Speed / 100)

EffectiveRunSpeed = EffectiveWalkSpeed + 2

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Jul 17 2008 12:16pm
Quote (Dumpling @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 06:14pm)
EffectiveWalkSpeed = BaseWalkSpeed * (1 + Skill_FRW / 100 + [Item_FRW * 150 / (Item_FRW + 150)] / 100 + Armor_Speed / 100)

where

* BaseWalkSpeed is 4 yards/s for all characters

EffectiveRunSpeed = EffectiveWalkSpeed + 2


afk slitting

AT LEAST IM NOT SEEING IMPARED THO HAEHAEHAEHHAEHAEHEAHAEH
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Jul 17 2008 12:24pm
Quote (AbysmalDescent @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 02:16pm)
afk slitting

AT LEAST IM NOT SEEING IMPARED THO HAEHAEHAEHHAEHAEHEAHAEH

i made a boo boo too.

its ~6%, from 8yrd/s to 8.47 yrd/s
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#207
Jul 17 2008 12:41pm
Quote (darcanegel @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 09:14am)
with 75% vs 105% frw it's a difference of about 5%.  it's hard to tell, period.  there's massive diminshing returns


...
huk huk
i guess you've never played a necromancer then
or a trapper
or a druid
or.....

take a second to stop theorycrafting and actually apply things empirically...
ow8, cant
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#208
Jul 17 2008 01:20pm
Quote (WuKiLLaBee @ Thu, 17 Jul 2008, 11:21)
rofl @ 20k for perm valk

hi moe

GARmoe


hi andruid! the numbers are for real, if it was only 5k each i would possess 3-4 of them for my setups but i am not going to spend (and i cant, anyways) 60-80k for some frw chicken.gif


hmmm baby_palahero ... used to be my pub pk libby^^ it was just the first thing i could think of when i wanted to make a char to enrage and humiliate the masses in pubs. baby_palahero and HYPER_HYMENHERO(*susannebaby1995) were pretty goZu pkers :-)

but i dont want dave to play libby, we better discuss this via OT topic i guess
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#209
Jul 17 2008 01:24pm
2ClassSkill/20FCR/30FRW/2Soc > Valk plox
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#210
Jul 17 2008 01:36pm
Quote (AbysmalDescent @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 10:01am)
you seriously fail at everything including this game blind dork. mathematically it ought to be whatever the formula you're using gives you but you just pull numbers out of your enlarged ass, and PLEASE tell me how you got the 5%-from-in-game-test HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH.

you don't know shit about ww and tried to redeem yourself by blabbering about arreat summit. eat a dick.

everyone who can't see the very significant difference between 75 and 105 frw should visit a fucking optician lol


5% was using a stopwatch over the same path several times, with 105 and 75 frw. the results were quite consistant, around 5%. by the calcs (as i guess you've figured out...) it's around 7% or something, but in-game > calcs. feel free to test it on your own though.

btw, i didn't say i CAN'T tell a difference. I said i can BARELY tell a difference. if you're seriously saying 5% faster runspeed is totally obvious, you're either a machinist or lying out your ass.

Quote (APPOLE @ Thu, Jul 17 2008, 10:41am)
...
huk huk
i guess you've never played a necromancer then
or a trapper
or a druid
or.....

take a second to stop theorycrafting and actually apply things empirically...
ow8, cant


yeah i've never played a trapper, that's why i wrote a 30-page-guide with s/s's about them rolleyes.gif

i tested it out in-game, first with just my eyesight and then with an actual stopwatch. i'm not sure how it's possible to GET any more empirical.

EDIT: btw, it's even LESS important with BoS, which i use for about 1/2 my duels anyway...

This post was edited by darcanegel on Jul 17 2008 01:37pm
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