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Oct 23 2022 09:11am
Quote (Roneye @ Oct 23 2022 10:12am)
Think I will wait for the fire druid as 2nd HC characters. Kinda requires Enigma, Infinity, Phoenix and GG Flickering Flame.


Aw come on bro you can afford it. It's just fg lol
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Oct 23 2022 09:18am
Quote (Disguea2012 @ 23 Oct 2022 16:53)
Look its all about the player, if you have ur own boer etc.. and know how to play go Full dps
if u dont feel safe in HC go for ES. i dont think ur a noob so u could go Vital lol


I will have my own boer. Well I rarely die on SC, Died once from dolls at lvl 98 on my hammerdin after 250 games (was tired AF), 0 deaths on my lvl 98 javazon.

Quote (Ethreain @ 23 Oct 2022 16:57)
+ one additional thing I forgot to say, you don't need any fhr on 95%es sorc. I see you have many fhr charms.
whether you get staggered or not is calculated from the percentage of life lost. With es% you will never get staggered.


Oh well that would give me more life/mana.

Quote (Sipo @ 23 Oct 2022 16:59)
With the sunder charm this game is so much easier for blizz sorc.
Any build will work, i always go vita and about 50% block


Duely noted.
If I go for 50% instead of 75% block I would get an additional 400life, which would be nice against souls etc?

I will also add 2x Wisp and 2x Dwarf rings to the mix. And use them depending on the TZ.
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Oct 23 2022 09:19am
Quote (Roneye @ Oct 23 2022 11:18am)
I will have my own boer. Well I rarely die on SC, Died once from dolls at lvl 98 on my hammerdin after 250 games (was tired AF), 0 deaths on my lvl 98 javazon.



Oh well that would give me more life/mana.



Duely noted.
If I go for 50% instead of 75% block I would get an additional 400life, which would be nice against souls etc?

I will also add 2x Wisp and 2x Dwarf rings to the mix. And use them depending on the TZ.


i mean if u reach near 3k life max block ur good vital with ur Boer, wont need to worry then. just care about Curse, since Curse with ES do nothing to us VS Vital
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Oct 23 2022 09:41am
RonEye why would you need any mf on HC sorc? If you planning on Hitting 99 Fast, just go full Safe Mode / Dmg. Also i dont think you'll get that amulet on HC unless u have it already. Nothing is nice against souls on p8, just skip them. And skip dolls if u go full vita, unless u have 50% dr. And u need minimum of 60 fhr. Ill max roll osmething for you, btw u want to spend fg right? Or selfound :)?

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This post was edited by papagold on Oct 23 2022 09:42am
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RonEye why would you need any mf on HC sorc? If you planning on Hitting 99 Fast, just go full Safe Mode / Dmg. Also i dont think you'll get that amulet on HC unless u have it already.


Finding stuff on the way will be more enjoyable. I'm not looking to race to 99, hence why I'm just gonna do P5.

Quote (papagold @ 23 Oct 2022 17:42)
Nothing is nice against souls on p8, just skip them. And skip dolls if u go full vita, unless u have 50% dr.


The vita build has 46% DR.
Does block work against them blowing up?
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Oct 23 2022 09:46am
Quote (papagold @ 23 Oct 2022 17:41)
RonEye why would you need any mf on HC sorc? If you planning on Hitting 99 Fast, just go full Safe Mode / Dmg. Also i dont think you'll get that amulet on HC unless u have it already. Nothing is nice against souls on p8, just skip them. And skip dolls if u go full vita, unless u have 50% dr. And u need minimum of 60 fhr. Ill max roll osmething for you, btw u want to spend fg right? Or selfound :)?


Well already found two amulets fairly close to it. So shouldn't be an issue getting 2/15/resist.
I'm going to spend FG, would be fine with spending like 25k ish.

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Oct 23 2022 09:50am
Quote (Roneye @ Oct 23 2022 06:44pm)
Finding stuff on the way will be more enjoyable. I'm not looking to race to 99, hence why I'm just gonna do P5.



The vita build has 46% DR.
Does block work against them blowing up?


As far as i know blow up dmg is physical, blocking blocks physical so. But again need to confirm.
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Oct 23 2022 09:50am
I think that for blizzard the vita build is better.

If you have a BO barb and good items you will be safe enough. With defense this high and maxblock and 50% DR, the physical damage is not going to be one of your problems. And vs elemental the vita builds are better than ES anyway.

ES sorc is bad at teleporting to baal because she doesn’t do very well against what’s in worldstone keep: souls, poison, blood mana curse, vipers with bone spear. And, I guess, you will be teleporting to baal a lot if you are going for lvl 99.

But I would definitely overstack light, fire & cold resistances to counteract conviction packs. I think it’s 260% to still have 75% after conviction, on hell. But double check this with tzone level conviction if you want to be sure.

Finally, these builds do not vary this much in terms of items. So there is nothing wrong in just trying them both and deciding which you personally like better. You may need some variety in the process :)

Good luck!
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Oct 23 2022 10:01am
Quote (papagold @ 23 Oct 2022 17:50)
As far as i know blow up dmg is physical, blocking blocks physical so. But again need to confirm.


Would be interesting to know. I'm excited to see your maxroll build.

Quote (kayko @ 23 Oct 2022 17:50)
I think that for blizzard the vita build is better.

If you have a BO barb and good items you will be safe enough. With defense this high and maxblock and 50% DR, the physical damage is not going to be one of your problems. And vs elemental the vita builds are better than ES anyway.

ES sorc is bad at teleporting to baal because she doesn’t do very well against what’s in worldstone keep: souls, poison, blood mana curse, vipers with bone spear. And, I guess, you will be teleporting to baal a lot if you are going for lvl 99.

But I would definitely overstack light, fire & cold resistances to counteract conviction packs. I think it’s 260% to still have 75% after conviction, on hell. But double check this with tzone level conviction if you want to be sure.

Finally, these builds do not vary this much in terms of items. So there is nothing wrong in just trying them both and deciding which you personally like better. You may need some variety in the process :)

Good luck!


Sounds like you really know your HC Sorceress.
Went into the thread being a bit over in the ES camp. But tipped way more into vita build right now.
With all sorts of areas with either blood curse, viper souls and high poison dmg in terror zones. Vita seems to be the best bet not to get caught off-guard?
I will add some Life + LR/FR to stack some extra resistances ty.
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