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Oct 6 2022 02:33am
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Oh great they threw in hidden item find boost in 2.4... Woopty do I haven't really played in some time so it can be forgiven.
I dont know the full extent of recent little changes, just a general idea. However you are a little Timmy thinking barb is one of the best pvm. Outside couple of niche things every other char does a better job

Stay small.


m8 if you don't even know how a gf barb's main skill works, you might want to refrain from giving out advice on gf barbs

or actually, go right ahead. it's legitimately hilarious (and so goddamn cute) watching you make such a fool of yourself

e: another hilarious thing to note is that you unironically claim to be the person that discovered that reaper's toll is a good merc weapon :rofl:

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Oct 6 2022 03:36am
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m8 if you don't even know how a gf barb's main skill works, you might want to refrain from giving out advice on gf barbs

or actually, go right ahead. it's legitimately hilarious (and so goddamn cute) watching you make such a fool of yourself

e: another hilarious thing to note is that you unironically claim to be the person that discovered that reaper's toll is a good merc weapon :rofl:


Claims barb is one of the best pvm chars, and fastest chaos/pit runners in the game Rofl. No backup of said claim because knows that he just owned himself.
Attempts to laugh in order to cover up his ignorance.

I was not aware of the hidden synergy they changed in 2.4. It's a minor sin, this game was unchanged for so many years it's equivalent to finding a spelling error to win arguments.
Find item, find potion, sword mastery, bo, howl/shout a slight change in order of skills big fking woop

You got nothing however just standing there holding your opinion with a face of a confused puppy.

Also eReapers is most recommended weapons for a2 merc unless you are playing an elemental damage dealer, by almost all the guides in d2jsp sticky. I was rocking it on my hdin back in patch 1.10 2003

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Oct 6 2022 03:58am
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Inb4 another hehe you funny with no backup. Sorry kid you got owned take the L
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Oct 6 2022 04:05am
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Claims barb is one of the best pvm chars, and fastest chaos/pit runners in the game Rofl. No backup of said claim because knows that he just owned himself.
Attempts to laugh in order to cover up his ignorance.

I was not aware of the hidden synergy they changed in 2.4. It's a minor sin, this game was unchanged for so many years it's equivalent to finding a spelling error to win arguments.
Find item, find potion, sword mastery, bo, howl/shout a slight change in order of skills big fking woop

You got nothing however just standing there holding your opinion with a face of a confused puppy.


it's a well known and established fact that zerk barbs are one of the most efficient pvm characters in the game. you're free to disagree, but that's you disagreeing with the community consensus. I stand to gain nothing from convincing you that's the case, so ultimately this is pointless

either way, here's some basic game knowledge that might help you to understand why everyone aside from yourself thinks it's a top pvm build:


zerk requires a low skill point investment to be efficient, allowing you to reach 75% find item without losing out on too much damage
it's not as gear dependent as ww
howl makes zerk barbs practically immortal
105 fcr switch means you're traversing the map faster than/as fast as other mfers
unlike ww barbs/frenzy barbs you can stack either mf or gf on your off-hand without losing clear speed
unlike merc-centric gf barbs you're able to speed up your travi clears without sacrificing anything other than your main-hand weapon - faster runs = more gold/loot
unlike merc-centric gf barbs you won't want to kill yourself after doing the same thing for hours on end
unlike merc-centric gf barbs you're not locked into spamming travi runs for gold and nothing else, you're equally efficient at pit runs and chaos runs
you one-shot elites in pits and chaos as quickly as a light sorc/hdin, with the added upside of a 75% chance of double loot

cons: you're only efficient in lower player counts and you're sort of locked into doing pits-travi-chaos. you have 0 aoe dmg so you'll only be popping elites

lmk if you have any other questions. as anyone would tell you, I've always been happy to educate randoms on basic game knowledge
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glad to see that you decided to take your own advice
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Oct 6 2022 04:34am
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it's a well known and established fact that zerk barbs are one of the most efficient barbs in pvm. you're free to disagree, but that's you disagreeing with the community consensus. I stand to gain nothing from convincing you that's the case, so ultimately this is pointless

either way, here's some basic game knowledge that might help you to understand why everyone aside from yourself thinks it's a top pvm build:


zerk requires a low skill point investment to be efficient, allowing you to reach 75% find item without losing out on too much damage
it's not as gear dependent as ww
howl makes zerk barbs practically immortal
105 fcr switch means you're traversing the map faster than/as fast as other mfers
unlike ww barbs/frenzy barbs you can stack either mf or gf on your off-hand without losing clear speed
unlike merc-centric gf barbs you're able to speed up your travi clears without sacrificing anything other than your main-hand weapon - faster runs = more gold/loot
unlike merc-centric gf barbs you won't want to kill yourself after doing the same thing for hours on end
unlike merc-centric gf barbs you're not locked into spamming travi runs for gold and nothing else, you're equally efficient at pit runs and chaos runs
you one-shot elites in pits and chaos as quickly as a light sorc/hdin, with the added upside of a 75% chance of double loot

cons: you're only efficient in lower player counts and you're sort of locked into doing pits-travi-chaos. you have 0 aoe dmg so you'll only be popping elites

lmk if you have any other questions. as anyone would tell you, I've always been happy to educate randoms on basic game knowledge


Fify

You need to work on your grammar bud to avoid confusion next time just say beserk barb is most efficient type of barb instead.
I would not disagree in this regard. Although frenzy> for ubers and ww> for mobs
You might be killing trav a little faster with zerk but the gold find with merc centric setup will always yield higher gold per minute.

If you are running some kind of hybrid mf and gf build then sure I suppose it makes sense. But as I already pointed out it's best to pop seals with a pure zerker since you are kinda sacrificing speed there. If you want to do both for fun and not efficienly as possible then I don't disagree.

Also zerk barbs are not cheap. People play the same thing doing same runs over and over for years gf barbs are income generating/gambling side hustle for most people.

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You might be killing trav a little faster with zerk but the gold find with merc centric setup will always yield higher gold per minute.


incorrect or at the very least debatable. this has been tested numerous times and while a gavel barb might yield comparable gpm, that comes at the cost of not being able to do anything other than travi runs. and again, the boredom is a turn-off to anyone that's not an artist

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Fify
next time just say beserk barb is most efficient type of barb instead


no, its efficiency is comparable to any of the other meta builds. provided that it's not for p8 clears. I've thoroughly explained why in my previous comment. again, you don't have to agree but you wouldn't just be disagreeing with me, you'd be contesting the established consensus

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I would not disagree in this regard. Although frenzy> for ubers and ww> for mobs


how are ubers relevant to this topic? a 50k fg barb can't clear ubers as quickly as a 30 fg smiter, so what is your point exactly? we're clearly talking about pvm efficiency here.

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you are running some kind of hybrid mf and gf build then sure I suppose it make sense. But as I already pointed out it's best to pop seals with a pure zerker since you are kinda sacrificing speed there. If you want to do both for fun and not efficienly as possible then I don't disagree.


this, much like everything you've stated here, makes no sense. but what do I know, maybe my brain is just not operating in the same frequency as yours. after all, I'm not the one who discovered that reapers is a good merc item :rofl:

in closing, I'm not trying to ridicule your obvious lack of understanding of this game's core concepts. there's nothing wrong with being new to the game or simply not grasping how the game works. nor do I think there's any prestige in having a better understanding of it than anyone else. I am, however, of the view that when you do lack game knowledge, you shouldn't be presenting yourself to others as one that possess it. it's clear to everyone reading this that you're out of your depth and have no clue about the things you're claiming expertise in. while it is funny, it's also tragic to an extent, especially when done with such an attitude.

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Oct 6 2022 05:26am
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incorrect or at the very least debatable. this has been tested numerous times and while a gavel barb might yield comparable gpm, that comes at the cost of not being able to do anything other than travi runs. and again, the boredom is a turn-off to anyone that's not an artist

Boredom and fun are subjective terms. Op asked about best optimal build here not your feelings on what is fun

no, its efficiency is comparable to any of the other meta builds. provided that it's not for p8 clears. I've thoroughly explained why in my previous comment. again, you don't have to agree but you wouldn't just be disagreeing with me, you'd be contesting the established consensus

You are not doing p8 or p7 clears....? If you are playing in p1 like a scrub then I suggest jump on a light/nova sorc because anything else is just for fun meme at that point.

how are ubers relevant to this topic? a 50k fg barb can't clear ubers as quickly as a 30 fg smiter, so what is your point exactly? we're clearly talking about pvm efficiency here.

Exactly my point. You brought pvm chaos pits in general to the discussion. Beserk barbs are limited to 1 thing hey do best. If you want to run pits jump on a hdin or a sorc.

this, much like everything you've stated here, makes no sense. but what do I know, maybe my brain is just not operating in the same frequency as yours. after all, I'm not the one who discovered that reapers is a good merc item :rofl:

You bringing up something from another thread and only confusing yourself. Look up some guides in sticky you will see reapers toll being recommended by many of jsp community that's a fact. Only thing here is you who doesn't make any sense

in closing, I'm not trying to ridicule your obvious lack of understanding of this game's core concepts. there's nothing wrong with being new to the game or simply not grasping how the game works. nor do I think there's any prestige in having a better understanding of it than anyone else. I am, however, of the view that when you do lack game knowledge, you shouldn't be presenting yourself to others as one that possess it. it's clear to everyone reading this that you're out of your depth and have no clue about the things you're claiming expertise in. while it is funny, it's also tragic to an extent, especially when done with such an attitude.

Irony is painful


:rofl:

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Oct 6 2022 05:40am
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:rofl:


the only thing I'd add is that yes, obviously reapers is bis on many mercs. the hilarious part is that you, a complete random, claims to have invented reaper mercs

and you've clearly proven yourself to be a borderline illiterate so there's no point in taking this any further. feel free to take a dig through some guides here on the site and elsewhere if you want further confirmation as to why zerk barbs are considered to be one of the top pvm characters
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Oct 6 2022 05:53am
Quote (Dolphy @ Oct 7 2022 12:40am)
the only thing I'd add is that yes, obviously reapers is bis on many mercs. the hilarious part is that you, a complete random, claims to have invented reaper mercs

and you've clearly proven yourself to be a borderline illiterate so there's no point in taking this any further. feel free to take a dig through some guides here on the site and elsewhere if you want further confirmation as to why zerk barbs are considered to be one of the top pvm characters


You are bringing up things from other threads out of context. Lol show me one guide here that claims barbs to best all round pvm characters other then 2 small niche areas of pvm (trav gold find and chaos seal popping) ? Please I am waiting to be proven wrong, show me the concensus of the community of your claim.

While you are at it why don't you post us your gear setup. :rofl:

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